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Old January 18th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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Need new lens for D40X for Alaska cruise

I'm a newbie to both the Forum and to digital photography as a hobby. A few months ago I bought a Nikon D40x with the 18-55 mm kit lens with my retirement gift money. I'm very happy with it, and hope to take wonderful photographs on my trip through the Alaskan Inside Passage and fjords this June. Question: I'm considering buying the Nikon 18-200 VR and use that for 100% of my picture-taking. Is it a better arrangement to not get the 18-200, but instead buy a longer (70-300) lens and bring both lenses? Thanks.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 06:06 PM
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I went through the same consideration with my D80. I started with the 18-70 and decided to get the 70-300VR. The extra reach versus the 18-200 makes a big difference for me (and the 70-300 takes good close-ups too). As long as you're comfortable with changing lenses (and if you committed to a DSLR then you should be ) then I'd go with the 70-300VR . And it's a bit cheaper

Have a good trip - its one that's been on my list for a while (and I've been retired for a while too) - too many other things to do

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Old January 18th, 2008, 06:14 PM
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Having recently returned from a wonderful, cruise thru Alaska's inner passage (sept 1-7)....I would say. Take both lenses. You will want pictures of y'all too and around the ship.

we also too the video camera.
I have the canon xti now (christmas). BUT On our trip I had my sony f-828. I wish I had the other camera, with more zoom, but thrilled with what I took. I managed 2500 photos (We took the train across part of Canada first).
It was the trip of a lifetime.
As of now, I think I am up to 30 or so, pages scrapbooked.

And...should you want any opinions of side excursions...just ask. I always have an opinion!!
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Old January 18th, 2008, 07:30 PM
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I was in the same situation and I went with the 70-300 and am very happy I did. The extra 100 really comes in handy in the big country. Great for birds, wildlife, and casual/impromtu head shots. It is my most used lense in the field. But you have to be prepared to swap lenses.

If you are only going to carry one lense then 18-200 is a good choice. I am not sure of the factor for your camera sensor but that is probably equivalent to a 25-280 in the old 35mm film world.

My bag now has: Amount used
11-18mm wide 5%
18-70mm kit standard 55%
70-300mm Tele/Macro 35%
400mm mirror Tele 3%
plus 50mm F1.7 prime 2%

p.s. Congratulations on your retirement. I just retired December 29th.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 11:41 PM
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Thanks, all. I just checked the prices on the B & H website, and the 70-300VR is $200 less than the 18-200VR. Since I'm willing to change lenses, I think it makes sense to get the 70-300. I suppose that means I'll have to carry a tripod as well, or do you think the VR precludes the need for a tripod? Thanks again.
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depends on the shooter whether a tripod is needed or not..
i've shot a lot of close-up stuff @ 300 (=450 on DX format) hand-held w/o VR
also depends on how much available light you'll have..if you will always be shooting fast then you should be alright, but if you'll be up in the f-stops then one might be inclined to grab one just in case
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Old January 19th, 2008, 12:46 AM
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Hope your also going on the Land Tour as well??

I would take both lens with you. You will never know what you might run into on situations. We did this trip 2 years ago, and had the most amazing time.

Besides what lens, remember to bring enough memory cards. You will shoot a lot. Without trying, I shot about 900 and I did spend some time deleting shots after hours.

What Tour Company are you going with?? Instead of a tripod, if your good try a small Mono Pod. Dragging a tripod on and off the ship will be a real pain after a while, and trust me. You will be going off ship, a lot.

From what I understand, the VR will take the place of a Tripod. When on a tripod, you will turn off the VR.

There will be Bald Eagles and Magpies spottings everywhere you go. Stay alert at all times. Think of very large Crows that are very agressive, we even saw a pair of Magpies bothering a lone Bald Eagle. The Inside Passage is full of life, and of course not when we were there. We only saw one pod of "Killer Whale".
In Denali, you will have Doll Sheep, Grizly and so much wildlife you wont know where to look first. If I wasn't careful, I could've shot about 4000 pictures and not almost 1000.

Glacier Tours, take as many as you can. Mendonhall is one of the Best Walking Tours. On your Ship in the Inside Passage you will be taken to "Hubbard Glacier". There are no words to describe these two. Just awsome.
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Excellent advice here and a good decision on your part. The 70-300VR is a very sweet lens. You will be happy with the extra reach. As for a tripod, it depends as Whiplash says on the light conditions. You should be able to handhold the 70-300mm at approx 2-3 stops slower shutter speed than without. It does not take into account moving objects...just your stability.

Using a tripod on the ship works in some locations but not others due to the engine vibration. We had out tripods set up on the upper deck and it was not a problem.

It also depends on the shore excursions you go on. Some are such whirlwind trips that you won't have time to set a tripod up. Others are slower and sped more time at locations and you will be glad you have a tripod along.

The weather in Alaska can be quite overcast and downright rainy. A tripod would help in these conditions. (I hope you have better weather than that.)
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Thank you, all, for those responses. I'll look into a monopod, which should be easier to lug around on the land excursions than a tripod, and I think it will give me (enough) additional stability.
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Be sure to check into some rain gear for your camera. I think that was my best tip I received here prior to our going.
It does rain a lot out there. I bought a package (with 2) rain sleeve at Ritz. I think it was 6.99.
Very happy I did.
Regarding tripod or monopod....
Was playing with my 70-300 with the image stabilizer last week, no tripod, used part of a fence sometimes, and I did just fine. AND ...there were some lovely children jumping on the boardwalk and shaking the fence too gotta love kids on a field trip.

I think I will go and add a few LO of our trip.
Take the whale watching tour!!!
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