Border Breakout, yes again...... ish.

[Hamlet 77]

Playing with BB again and I have a delightful shot of a baby elephant at Chester Zoo behind the special 'shower' they have in the pen and I want to get the BB to include the water drops out side the elephant on the same 'plane' as the elephant, but so the usual stuff with the rest of the photo.

HOW??????????

BTW posting the original on my gallery to give everyone an idea. just give us a couple minutes.

edit: Mind you looking at it it doesn't need much messing around with, but then I am baised. If it ain't broke don't fix it.... But I would still like to know.

[Wendy]

Hi Hamlet ...

Oh what a delightful image that is :) :) ..

To get those water drops outside the frame would not be an easy job ... one way to do it would be to zoom in, select each one of them individually then copy them to their own layer. The place then layer above the breakout image.

Could prove tricky ...

Wendy

[Diana]

Hamlet,

That baby elephant image with the water drops is so adorable. It reminds me of the commercial on TV where they have the baby elephant dancing to "Singing in the Rain." I never get tired of seeing that commercial, although I can't tell you what it's advertising (must not be very effective, huh!). I also like your boxer images and you're doing very well with the border breakouts.

Diana

[Hamlet 77]

Wendy,

I was afraid that would be the answer, that is far too much like hard work, for me anyway.

And as you have been so complimentary of the orginal I think I should leave the photograph and this insane desire to BB seemingly every photo in my organiser well alone, for a bit anyway.

I have just made another attempt at this technique, I fear I was biting off more than I could chew as I had my dog (what a surprise..... NOT) breaking out and a frisbee in mid air that he was trying to catch. It might have worked better IF the original had been half decent, but if you don't try you'll never know.

Thank you for your compliments and suggestions.......

[Wendy]

Hi Hamlet ...

Some of these techniques are pretty addictive ... !! :)

Wendy

[karen donnybrook]

Wendy, that is an understatement - just think of the orbs :eek:

[Wendy]

Karen ...

... and all those other things we have done :)

Wendy

[Hamlet 77]

In defence of my addiction (if there is a defence) I have tried other techniques suggested, and quite a few muddled mixes of my own, BUT none of them either have the same effect yet, get far too complicated or look anything like the effect I am supposed to get/want.

PLUS I find myself at quiet moments, usually when not at my computer and remember a particular photo I have that is just BEGGING to have a BB tried on it.... Mostly thought the idea is far better than any attempt.......

I NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR A NEW TECHNIQUE, hopefully with nice idiot proof step by step guides to help me. DON't ask me for any ideas for a photo to play with I'll know when I see the technique what shots 'deserve' to be 'improved'

[David Asch]

Selecting water is incredibly difficult! There are one or two techniques but they do not work on every image. Also, would the drops be visible if you BB'd this image?

This is one I created a while ago, it took a while!

http://static.flickr.com/20/68684522_cbf0b12751.jpg

Full size image (http://static.flickr.com/20/68684522_cbf0b12751_o.jpg)

[Wendy]

Hi Butch ...

Donlt worry about it :) ... as long as you have images that are crying out for this technique them keep on doing them !!

Another technique you may like is the painted edge one (Videos 18th November 2005) ... thats a nice technique :)

Wendy

[Hamlet 77]

Hi Butch ...

Donlt worry about it :) ... as long as you have images that are crying out for this technique them keep on doing them !!

Another technique you may like is the painted edge one (Videos 18th November 2005) ... thats a nice technique :)

Wendy

Butch?????

I thought I didn't even have a web cam???

I used a 'version' of the same technique for my christmas cards, however my method was pretty time consuming and possibly made the file size (that old problem with layers I have) rather large, I ended up preffering the views seen through the shape of Christmas bells but it is an idea I want to pursue as it is the first idea I had for photoshop, when I had seen PSE used at a digital photography day at Tatton Park, pretty naff for actually teaching you how to take DP, but a great piece of advertising for PSE. Though it might have helped if the 'expert' had known how to use a pen and tablet, whilst professing how wonderful and easy all these techniques were WITH a pen and tablet............

Am I rambling again??

[Wendy]

Hi Hamlet ...

Oh my ... my head isn't into gear yet :( ... Its the thought process ... I was trying to remember something that Butch had posted and well I must have had a senior moment !!.

One of the problems of using layers is that they do increase the size of images ... but layers just make it so much easier.

Gosh it is years since I was at Tatton Park ... before I left the North we used to visit fairly often. I am surprised that the expert didn't use a tablet ... as most of them do seem to.

I am still struggling with mine ... I suspect that I would have found it easier if I had got the tablet much earlier. By the time I got it I was just so used to using the mouse ... I do use the tablet but when a selection gets tricky I tend to switch back to the mouse. Yes I know it should be the other way round !!

Wendy

[Hamlet 77]

Well I have been moaning about my pen and tablet for weeks and today the pen gave up the ghost, so I replaced the battery and still nowt happened, so I started to have a look at the connections and it transpires that I was never going to get good connections with my pen cos the contacts in the pen were being kept artificially further away from each other than ws strictly necessary, so the cursor flies round the tablet at Warp factor 2 and contact with the tablet needs to be a lighter than seems imaginable before things happen.

NO WONDER I HAVEN'T GOT THE HANG OF IT YET, I've been using dodgy gear for 3 months........

BTW Wendy, had a go at your suggested technique, using a mouse it is on my gallery.

[karen donnybrook]

Hamlet, I really like the first three in your gallery; that border looks really great :)

[Wendy]

Hamlet ...

No wonder you were having problems :( ... now you will have to start getting used to it all over again !!

Like the new additions, nice work on them !! ... my favourite is the Iris :)

Wendy