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Warren
February 6th, 2010, 03:06 AM
Hi
Has anyone solved or had this problem

I am trying to capture video from a Canon Legria HV 40 (Mini DV)

Pre 7 controls the camera OK , Play FF etc but no video footage is displayed in the capture window.

It does not seem to matter if I change settings to 4:3 or 16:9, footage is all in 4:3, and plays back in the camera OK

I have previously had no problems capturing video off a Sony Mini Dv

Any thoughts greatly appreciated

ATR
February 6th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Warren

From what I have read, your Canon is recording HDV.

Are you doing a camcorder capture firewire into Premiere Elements 7 and is your Premiere Elements 7 set for a project preset (new project dialog) = NTSC HDV HDV 1080i30 or the PAL counterpart depending on your location?

For troubleshooting purposes, can you capture firewire into HDVSplit, followed by bringing the split clips into Premiere Elements 7 via Premiere Elements 7's Get Media/Files and Folders?
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

Let us start here.

I will be watching for your progress.

ATR

Warren
February 6th, 2010, 08:49 PM
Thanks for your reply ATR

The Canon is a HD (PAL) recorder

I have now managed to capture the video in HD 16:9, the HD 4:3 and SD 4:3 versions did not work. But the original footage is in SD 4:3 (PAL - recorded on a Sony which is no longer working). Premiere requires me to use the HD 16:9 preset to capture even if the original footage is in 4:3 when using the Canon HD recorder.

Capturing off the Sony SD gave me the option of using 4:3 or 16:9 presets

I obviously need to get the hang of the various presets and the Adobe Help for Premiere isn't all that useful. It could be the camera of course but the onscreen playback sems to come out well.

Warren

ATR
February 6th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Warren,

I will work on this some more tomorrow, but for now I just want to make sure that we are agreeing:

1. Your Canon HV 40 (PAL) can record HDV 1080i25 as well as SD (standard or widescreen)
a. HDV 1080i25 is 1440 x 1080 HD Anamorphic with a frame rate of 25 frames per second. The HD Anamorphic stretches the 1440 x 1080 (4:3) to 1920 x 1080 (16:9) for display after encoding. For this, if you are doing a camcorder firewire capture into Premiere Elements, the camcorder is set on HDV and the Premiere Elements project preset = PAL HDV HDV 1080i25. Troubleshooting of a HDV capture problem is typically done using HDVSplit as mentioned previously.
b. SD Standard 4:3 and Widescreen (16:9) both have the same frame size = 720 x 576 (PAL). The camcorder is set on DV and the Premiere Elements project preset = PAL DV Standard (4.3) or Widescreen (16.9) to corresponding to how the video was recorded.
Are we OK on those details.

You say that you are now OK with capturing HDV, but not DV. Typically, to troubleshoot DV capture issues, instead of camcorder firewire capture into Premiere Elements, you see if camcorder firewire capture into the free WinDV works.
http://windv.mourek.cz/

Please let me know if we are OK on the above.

Thanks.

ATr

ATR
February 7th, 2010, 08:52 AM
Warren,

I have also included the following in another thread to try to sort out the capture issues:

Here is some Premiere Elements 7 Capture Firewire Information to check out (if you have not already)

From Premiere Elements 7 PDF Help
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremiereElements/7.0/WS2AF26FB5-4C63-4c46-9DB3-7249558F6528.html

Free Online Video Tutorial on Capture “Getting Video From DV Source”
http://www.infiniteskills.com/training/premiere-elements-8-for-windows-essential-training.html

ATR

alexander_geoff
February 28th, 2010, 02:32 AM
Bad news, Prem Elements can't show HDV (tape based) captured images during capture or automatically split HDV footage by timecode.

Good news, the free utility, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/HDVSplit, HDVSplit carries out both functions.

I always download using HDVSplit then import selected files into PE.

ATR
February 28th, 2010, 07:05 AM
alexander_geoff

Glad you found that popular and recommended workaround for HDV capture related to Premiere Elements
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm
It is a great troubleshooting tool for HDV capture issues as well as a workaround.

Its counterpart for DV capture is WinDV
http://windv.mourek.cz/
This too is a great troubleshooting tool for DV capture issues as well as a workaround if needed.

Thank you for pointing out the HDV capture into Premiere Elements restrictions which are also documented in the Premiere Elements Help PDF which far too many people overlook.

ATR