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joshuabarbour
November 4th, 2009, 08:35 PM
My plan is to use one photo and zoom in and pan around while narrating. I am super new and have very basic skills with editing, I know i have to use keyframes, I know how to get keyframes onto the timeline, I just do not know how to zoom and pan in between keyframes. Is there an automation style effect i can use, to "record" movement in the photo in realtime? If not please let me know how i can zoom and pan while using keyframes! Thanks so much! I am using Adobe Premiere elements 4.0

Wendy
November 5th, 2009, 02:50 AM
hi joshuabarbour ...

and welcome to the Village :)

I will move your thread over to the Premiere Elements section as you will get more replies if it is in there.

Wendy

ATR
November 5th, 2009, 08:03 AM
joshuabarbour

In Premiere Elements 4, you can apply pan OR zoom effects to your photo, using Presets found Edit Mode/Effects/Presets and looking at the options under the categories of:
Horizontal Image Zooms
Horizontal Image Pans
Vertical Image Zooms
Vertical Image Pans

The better way is to create your own pan AND/OR zoom effect for your photo, keyframing its Position (for pans) and Scale (for zooms) properties in the Motion Panel of the Properties Palette.

Properties Palette found: Window Menu/Properties or right clicking video and selecting Show Properties.

You say that you know the basic principles of keyframing. So, once you highlight your video on the Timeline, open the Properties Palette, get to Motion Panel, expand the Motion Panel to see the Position and Scale properties, and click on the Toggle Animation Icon to activate the keyframing process. You do not have to hit that icon again. Then for each change in time, change the setting for Position (for pan) or Scale (for zoom) in the Motion Panel dials or moving/scaling in the Monitor with your mouse cursor.

We can do a step by step next if necessary. But, first let us see if I have targeted your question and how you do with the information supplied.

ATR

Chuck Engels
November 5th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Hi Joshua, ATR has pointed you to the Pan and Zoom presets that will automatically do the effect for you. The only problem is you can't add two presets to the same clip, you can either pan or zoom but not both, that is in version 7 and 8.

The good part of this is that in version 4 you CAN add both to the same clip.
Here is my tutorial on how to do that
http://muvipix.com/products.php?subcat_id=42
"tu-PE4 - Create an Instant Slideshow w/Pan & Zoom"

When you are ready to start keyframing there are some good tutorials on that as well, and Steve's Tip on Basic Keyframing is a must read
http://muvipix.com/products.php?subcat_id=44
"st-Basic Keyframing (PDF format)"

ATR
November 5th, 2009, 07:24 PM
joshuabarbour

I see that I need to elaborate on the matter of the Premiere Elements Presets under Effects for pans OR zooms versus pans AND zooms.

I would agree with previous remarks that, using Premiere Elements 7 or 8, the program will allow you to apply either a pan OR zoom preset to your photo, and not both. So in versions 7 or 8, if you first apply one of the pan presets and then one of the zoom presets to the same photo, it will be the zoom effect that will exist. Whatever version that you are using, explore and experiment with these presets. You can edit them as well. In some cases, when you select just one of the pan presets, the program “scales up” the image so that you will have enough photo to make the pan, giving the appearance of a pan on a scaled up (zoomed in) version of the photo.

Now let us look at the matter of Premiere Elements 4 and pan OR zoom versus pan AND zoom, using Effects/Presets/and the options. I have found that, unlike versions 7 and 8, Premiere Elements 4 will accept one of the pan and one of the zoom effect within one photo (pan AND zoom), but I have not always gotten that on a consistent basis. That should not deter you from trying it to see if that works for you. I would agree that you can get some interesting effects in Premiere Elements 4 with pan OR zoom and prefer to think in those terms.

Now to the matter of the video tutorial to which you were referred on that matter. I have seen that tutorial, and it does achieve its stated purpose, that is, demonstrating auto creation of slideshow with pan and zoom and transitions between all images in a quick way of doing that.
Your original question evolved around zooming into a photo and panning that photo, so I felt it necessary to comment on the suggested video in that context.
a. You do not have to use the Create Slideshow feature of Premiere Elements 4 (used in that demo) in order to get pan AND zoom for a photo. Using Get Media/Files and Folder, you can highlight your photo on the Timeline, go to Edit Menu/Effects/Presets and pick your Horizontal Image Zoom or Vertical Image Zoom or Horizontal Image Pan or Vertical Image Pan, and apply your pan AND zoom effects and edit them. Either it will work, or it will not. That is inherent in the program, not the Create Slideshow feature. The Create Slideshow feature is not the trick to make this work in version 4 and not in versions 7 and 8.
b. Also, if you watch that video, keep your eye on the Timeline to keep track of what is going on. Although the demo says that a preset is added to photo 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 and you see the mentioned photo being highlighted, the view in the Monitor typically does not represent photo 1 or 2 or 3 or 4, but rather where the Timeline Indicator was left positioned during this phase of the demo.

On to the matter of keyframing…since you said that you had a basic knowledge of keyframing, I was waiting for further discussion of your needs on that matter. Here is a keyframing (pans AND zooms) success story with how tos and links from right within this forum
http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50530

You have a lot of interesting exploration and experimentation to do. As you progress with the program, you will develop your own style and the workflow that works for you. If any questions, small or big, do not hesitate to ask.

ATR