Deleting Text In A Photo-Text Tool

[mdbassman]

I am having a difficult time using the "Text Tool" to edit/delete text. I can never seem to delete the text once placed. Next I cant really see the size of the font in the "finished product" the image. Am I doing something wrong?
Dan

[NMarti]

Dan,
Go to your layers palette and click on the layer you want to delete. Then right click it and choose delete. I used to have the same trouble till I figured out you can't double-click it in the image but rather have to choose the layer. Also - once placed double-click on the capital T in the layer box and you will see the text hi-lite in the image thus allowing you to click on it in the image and change your wording or go up top to the tool bar and increase/decrease font size and make other adjustments. The key - make sure you choose the text layer.

[Grant]

Next I cant really see the size of the font in the "finished product" the image. Am I doing something wrong?

Dan

Nancy took care of the first half. The second half is a bit difficult to explain but the solution is not so hard. Select the magnifying glass. In the top tool option bar there are three selections, "Actual Pixel Size", "Fit on Screen", "Fit on Screen". Actual Pixel Size will give you a rough idea of how it will look on a web site, I say rough idea because monitors are slightly different in pixel count. Fit on Screen just gives you a very comfortable working size. Fit on Screen will give you a fair representation of what the print will look like when printed.

[mdbassman]

When I goto "layers" what option do I choose? I tried all and I still cannot get the text highlighted to remove.

[Grant]

Click on the layer that has the "T" and is named the same as your text that appears on the screen.

[mdbassman]

Reading before thinking..

[mdbassman]

Nancy and Grant..I am just not getting it! When I go to "Windows"> Layers on the right I see the Layers view but nowhere do I see any view that shows me the text title nor the "layer" with the text in it.
Dan

[NMarti]

Dan
Just a thought - did you previously flatten the image with text on it or save it as a jpeg? That will flatten the image and make your text un-editable. You may have to cut it out or clone it out and start with a new text layer.

[mdbassman]

It appears I am in way over my head! Flatten? I was in Editor>I want to insert some data onto the image so I can compare images later> I clicked on the "Text Tool" vertically inserted my text saved image(it is a jpeg) then decided I want to delete the text and relocate and add different data. Flatten.?? never entered a command to flatten the image.Dan

[NMarti]

Dan
When you save as a jpeg it automatically flattens the image. If you save as a PSD it retains all of your individual layers thus allowing you to go back and edit them as needed. I generally save in both if I want to save for the web or e-mail so I always have my original to edit.

[mdbassman]

Here is a link to the image and text

[mdbassman]

maybe someone might give me what the workflow would be for taking an image, editing it, adding text and saving it. I have 3 books on PSE3 and none give you a warning that if you want to add text you cannot save as a jpeg then work on the image later and be able to change some saved data. Maybe I am going about what I want to do wrong?
I want to take a series of images and add the camera EXIF data onto each image and later compare images and what the data for each was/is. I thought the "Text tool" would allow me to do this AND delete,edit,add addtl info later in all file formats(jpg,tiff,,)
Dont know why I am having a mental block here on what I thought was a very simple procedure.??
Sorry..
dan

[NMarti]

Sorry Dan - time for me to step aside and let one of the more experienced ones here address that - Hey Wendy? Ray? Grant? Anyone!

[Wendy]

Hi Dan ...

Well you can use the text tool to do that but unless you want it to be stuck onto your image then you need to keep your image as a layered file (psd, tiff).

However, is this info not already on your image when you bring it into Elements ... I don't mean showing on the photo itself but in the data.

Being a Mac user my version is different ... instead of getting the Organiser we got the full CS filebrowser. Whilst in the filebrowser if I click on an image then I get all the EXIF data over on the lefthand side of the filebrowser. Does the windows version not do that too? .. or maybe somewhere in the organiser??

Here is what mine looks like:

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1eJT3VkNpyVg1Fp11544S2WsIaJ1a

Wendy

[Grant]

AND delete,edit,add addtl info later in all file formats(jpg,tiff,,)

dan

Dan

Two things to realize. When you are working in Elements you are not working on a file format. While you are in Elements, or any graphic program, there is no jpg or tiff ... just an image.

Programs like elements, Photoshop and a group of others will compartmalize your work areas as objects for a lack of better name. In Elements and Photoshop these are called layers. Using these layers you can edit you program and return to this area later if you want to rework you image. The text tool will do all the things you want as it creates its own layer for you.

The problem comes when you save you image that you have worked so hard at. Not all file formats are created equal. A few file formats will save these layers for you so that in the future you can call the file back and adjust your work. This sounds like a perfect world but it comes with the cost of a large file size. The best way to save you layers is by using the file formats PSD or JIFF. Almost all other formats will "flatten" in order to save space. So if you are not interested in saving your layers information an you want a smaller size file you choose a file format like jpeg to save in. The cost here is that you can't access layers anymore and editing has to start from scratch. All file formats have a purpose you just have to use the one that fits your needs.

[Mary]

Good Morning Dan
I think what may have happened is that you are not seeing your pallette bin. Are you seeing something on the right of your screen that looks like this? Let us know:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/8936/pals5tk.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pals5tk.jpg)

[mdbassman]

Yes Mary that is what is displayed.

[Mary]

To edit your text - double click on the T on the icon that I circled in my example. That will select your text and then you will be able to click within that selection to correct your text.

If you want to get rid of all the text just drag that text layer to the trash.

To keep all your layers so you can edit any part of it in the future save as a .psd file. If you want to send it to someone via email - also save it for the web under the File menu and that will save it as a jpg and no layers therefore no text editing after that.

Does that you get you closer to what you would like to do?:)

[mdbassman]

I dblclicked on the "T" and got a box called "New Layer- Name - Layer 0" showed no text nor was I able to do any editing of the text on the image.
Dan

[Mary]

Do you have any of your layers linked? Can you take a Print Screen and then File Open in PSE from clipboard? Then crop to just show us your layers pallette on the right side of your screen . Then save for the web and upload to Pixentral or Image shack. Copy the address after your upload and come back to this thread and post the link to your reply.:)

[mdbassman]

I cannot get the PRT SCRN key to work. When I do a PRT SCRN and try to retrieve the image I get no file. When you see the image > I click on the text and the Layer1 box appears on the right pallette. The text displayed on the image itself is not in the pallette box labeled " Layer 1" no other text in box. Dbl Clk on "T" and I get "Open New Layer" box.
Dan

[mdbassman]

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1vjk2acXbSkMMZ2EkEvKBLZFm0wjD1

I think this got it Mary..When I dbl clk on "Layer 1" I go to the main image with "Background" displayed in the box never the text written on image.
Dan

[Diana]

Mary, that photo of the dogs in your example is soooo adorable. Are those your dogs? What breed?

Dan, I don't see any text on the image in your example. When you drag the text "T" Layer into the trash bin does anything change?

Diana

[Wendy]

Dan ...

I'm trying to work out how many layers you have in your image and I'm not sure what it is ...

Could you move your layers palette into the centre and open it up completelt so that we can see the individual layers ... by the way where is the text on the image??


Wendy

[Mary]

Hi Dan - I can't see where you actually typed text on a layer. Once you choose the type tool and type something - where your example shows Layer 1 it will read what you typed instead.

Thought???? Are you trying to delete the words on the books or other words that are part of the picture?

Diana: Hi those dogs are Soft Coated Wheaten Terriers and they belong to our son and his family. We had 2 also and they are such great dogs.:)

[Diana]

Mary--Oh, a friend of mine recently got a puppy of that breed, but I haven't seen it yet as they spend part of the year in Florida. Do you happen to know if they have hypoallergenic hair like poodles?

Dan--just a thought--you aren't trying to delete text imbedded in the photo by the camera, like the date and time, are you?

Diana

[mdbassman]

The text is there and right below the bag. The text inserted is EXIF data for the picture. I used the text tool as stated in my initial post. That is correct that you see no text in the layer pallette. That is part of the problem. There is text on the picture by using text tool BUT when you click on the text you get Layer1 and no text.
Dan

Wendy I cant expand on the layer pallette. When I double click on the "Layer1" box it reverts back to the image with "background" displayed next to the Santa image.
Dan

[Mary]

Ok Dan now I think I understand. That text that is on the picture that you posted was not put there by you typing it in using the type tool. Am I right? That would make it just "image" that you want to remove not anything that could be altered using the text tool. Although it appears as text you will have to clone that text covering it with something else from your image. Use the clone tool to select part of the surrounding image without the text and then cover the text with the clone tool selection.

Let us know if that is what is happening:)

[mdbassman]

No Mary I put the text there with the text tool.

[Mary]

The only thing that could have happened then is that you saved the file in a format that discarded layers and made the text just part of the photo. Unless you saved the file after adding the text in a layered psd format without merging down any of the layers - then you have to treat the text as part of the image and clone over it with the surrounding image.:(