Big memory....big problem

[diver77]

I have 293 free Gb on my C: drive and yet I'm getting the
"caution, low memory" warning on my APE 7 video project....

what could my problem be?

I've defragged, rendered, scanned disc, saved often,
restarted but still get the message if I don't save
every few minutes.

Any tips will be appreciated.

[digirebel]

How much ram do you have, and what is your virtual memory set for?

[ATR]

You may want to take a look at Nick W’s very long thread that started out with those low memory messages and ended up with the problem targeted at the files used.
http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47490

Digirebel asked you some important questions about RAM and virtual memory. I would elaborate on those questions with:
a. how much installed as well as available RAM do you have?
b. how is your virtual memory setup…with operating system in control or with your personal settings
and add
c. what is your computer operating system and is it 32 bit or 64 bit?
d. have you used the computer’s Task Manager Performance to try to evaluation your memory situation?
Vista
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6162525.html
Windows XP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185778

Also, please detail what you are doing in the program when you get these low memory messages. And, describe the source, format, and length of the video on the Timeline and involved in these projects.


Looking forward to learning of your details.

ATR

[diver77]

:o
I have Microsoft XP Professional
Version 2002 Service Pack 3

For processors I have 2

My computer is Intel (R)
Dual processors at:
Pentium (R) D CPU 3.00GHz

3.00 GHz, 2.00 GB of Ram

For sound/video and game controllers I have:
Audio Codecs
IDT High Def Audio CODEC
Legacy Audio Drivers
Legacy Video Capture Devices
Media Control Devices
Video Codecs

I've moved most of my large folders (ie, documents/graphics/photos)
to an exernal storage unit to free up my C: drive so it has 293 GB free.
My other local drive has 107 GB free.

I have my auto save set to 2.

Can I safely delete files out of any of these folders:
Preview Files
Encoded Files
Media Cache Files

I'm a novice. (obviously)

[diver77]

my project is currently 11,822 KB in size, about 34 minutes long

[ATR]

Suggestions....

1. For now, shutoff the Auto Save under Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoSave.

2. With your Timeline content in place and your DVD disc in the computer DVD burner tray, go to Share/Disc/Disc and look at the details in the burn area (with Fit Content to Disc checked):
Space Required and Bitrate
What is the value for each and is the Bitrate below 8

3. Clear out the scratch files (Previews, Encoding, Media Cache) and direct them to the external hard drive via Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks). Seek out the AutoSave Folder and clear that out also. If you need to keep any of those AutoSaves, the make sure the AutoSave Folder is located on the external hard drive. The project .prel file can also go to the external hard drive. You could create a folder there to house these components of a project. Make sure that the Premiere Elements 7 programs files are with the Program Files on the local hard drive.

Let us see what those burn area Space Required and Bitrate values look like.

To be continued....

ATR

[diver77]

.........ok

I've shut off the Auto Save,
here's the info I found on the Disc burn window:

2.22 GB (Bitrate 8.00 Mbps)

Am I supposed to go to the files on my C: drive and clean the contents out of each of the previews/encoding/media cache folders as well as the
auto save folder?

I want to be sure I don't delete anything I shouldn't and lose my project.

Not sure how I get my Auto Save folder on the exernal hard drive.

[ATR]

You can safely clear out files in Adobe Preview Files, Encoding, and Media Cache.

Be careful not to delete the Styles Folder if that is in the vicinity.

If you do not think that you will need an AutoSave as a Life Saver than you can delete the AutoSave Folder.

If you are going to utilize an external hard drive (formatted NTFS, not FAT32), try a mini run with this setup to see if it works for you. It should for the present situation as well as providing a clean route to deleting all the components of a project for which you no longer have use.

You are going to opening a new project.
1. Open Premiere Elements and in the New Project dialog, where it says "Save In:", Browse to the external hard drive and create a new folder there (let us say California Sunset Project). Select your project preset (NTSC DV Standard..whatever appropriate), click OK.
2. When the workplace opens, go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Files and set everything "Same As Project".
3. Then go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoSave and then up in ON or OFF which meets your needs.

Now, the external hard drive folder "California Sunset Project" will receive the project .prel file as well as the have folders for the Previews, Encoding, Media Cache, and AutoSave. But, in your quest to free up free local hard drive space, make sure that the capacity of the external hard drive is large enough for your work load.

That was an example with one project at one time. You could set up your external hard drive with a master folder to hold each of the folders for the projects that you do.

Let us see how far we get into the project after a computer cleanup.

Key to remember is that you do not want to delete any source media that went into a saved project. If you do, when you go to reopen the project, you will have a serious media reconnect problem. Look into the details of the Project Archiver (Archiver and Copy options) for avoiding reconnect problems under the circumstances that I just cited. Any questions, please ask.

To be continued....

ATR
(if in doubt, ask beforehand)

[diver77]

ok....I'll work on moving my files around.

If I had more RAM on my C: drive, would I be able to avoid
these memory problems or do I need more memory on C:??

[ATR]

With regard to your Windows XP, SP3 operating system, have you worked through the Task Manager Performance evaluation to aid you in the decisions about upgrading the system memory?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185778
Just how much of that 2 GB installed RAM is available is only one question related to this evaluation. See link.

Also, please detail what you are doing in the program when you get these low memory messages. And, describe the source, format, and length of the video on the Timeline and involved in these projects.
Also, answers to the above previously asked questions will also be a major part of the considerations.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

RAM is really cheap these days, might want to add 2GB and see if that helps :)

[ATR]

diver77

I would suggest that you do the evaluation of your memory situation before you put out any funds for additional memory. Inexpensive and expensive mean different things to different people. You may end up doing that anyway, but....

When it comes to computer memory that Crucial web site seems to be well respected. You might want to look into the free services that they provide in helping you make your decision.
http://www.crucial.com/#
You will need to know if your computer motherboard will support a total of 3 or 4 GB installed RAM.

Once we work through all the details mentioned in our previous posts, then you can make your decisions.

ATR

[diver77]

I did go through the link:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=185778

It appears that I'm at or in better shape than the examples given.

I shut down my virus scanner, screensaver, and a couple of processes.
I also am saving/rendering very frequently, exiting program regularly, running CCleaner, and defragging often as well.

I managed to get the cache, preview etc files over to my external drive
but got in trouble trying to move my prelim file and had trouble getting
back to square one. (Like I said, I'm a novice!)

Have got my project almost finished....still need to add a few MP3
audios for background music and then I'll be ready to finish up.

Very slow, but at least I'm not worried so much about completely losing the project!

Thanks for the help. I'll just keep plugging along.

[ATR]

diver77

I will be watching for your continuing progress.

Just keep watch on:
a. computer resources
b. source, format, and duration of source media
c. disc capacity of disc vs Space Required/Bitrate Rate
d. and all the rest including making sure that drivers are up to date

(If you have everything stable (maybe slow), you could see how all works with the AutoSave ON and set appropriately. That can be a life saver at times.)

and you will do fine.

ATR

[diver77]

I struggled through with the suggestions I've received (and the ones a newbie such as myself was able to implement).

My video turned out fine, I think I need more "up front memory" (?) and
possible RAM so I don't have to move huge chunks of files from my
C: drive to an external drive next time.

I appreciate the help and specific assistance I received here.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~:rolleyes:

[ATR]

diver77

I am thrilled by your news, "My video turned out fine,...". I am so glad for your success and the hard work and stick-to-it-tiveness that you put into achieving your goal.

Keep up the good work.

ATR