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mseymour
August 21st, 2009, 06:29 PM
Why is there a file and a file(1)? They look identical. I did extensive editing on the original file, but I have no idea why file(1) showed up. PSE6, by the way.

Jeff Perry
August 21st, 2009, 06:41 PM
Are the file creation dates and times and sizes identical? Maybe it is a duplicate that was accidentally created. If the dates are different, it would likely be an edited version of of the original.

Jeff

mseymour
August 21st, 2009, 07:31 PM
Yup, file creation/modification dates and times are the same.

lbjiowa
August 22nd, 2009, 12:35 AM
Merritt-If you edit the one, does the other change as well? Are you on a Mac, by any chance?

JAW
August 22nd, 2009, 01:27 AM
Hi lbjiowa, mseymour (marrett)

There will be no change in the second or third immage (or how ever many immages of the first you make) as the second immage and all the others are but a copy of the first immage with a new ID (1,2,3, etc) tag attached to each. Each duplicate immage would not have the same ID info because if that were possible (not possible), there would be but only one immage and only that one immage having one ID for that immage. That is how one can tell one immage from another. They may look the same but the tags (ID) are different. If you want to save an immage - not have it lost or deleated by mistake - one uses a duplicate of the first - so there is not a mistake made when you finish working on your project (immage). :eek:

Suggestion: Always make a duplicate of the original and work on the duplicate - no pain if you screw up and toss the duplicate by mistake.

Example:

If you duplicated one immage several times (say three) - each duplicated immage would have a different ID so you wouldn't get mixed up which one you may be working on using elements - for example. Bet it makes sense now! :)

I'm on a Mac. :p

lbjiowa
August 22nd, 2009, 06:37 AM
Jaw,
Totally AGREE with all you said! Of course all that goes without saying ... IF a user is doing something like File>Save or to create that second instance of the file...but Merritt said the date and time stamp are the same and the one file had been edited and the other hadn't.

To create a second instance of a file WITHOUT having the current date/time stamp updated requires something like Copy>Paste twice or dragging the file from a CD to the hard drive (same directory) twice or unzipping the file a second time ... any of these do NOT change the date/timestamp or the file sizes etc ... the only difference would be the addition of that little identifier (1). Had it happened again, Mac would assign (2) to the file or files, as Jaz explained.

Windows op sys does not do that ... only Mac ... (or at least that's what I remember from the last time I worked on a PC...several months ago now) that's why I asked if he was on a Mac before trying to respond to his question.

If you (Merritt) didn't duplicate the file intentionally, I would guess that it was a simple matter of a slight double click or double tap of the V key (CTRL+V V) during a paste procedure ... or something like that. BUT that would have had to happen AFTER you finished the extensive editing.

The thing that is somewhat confusing is where you (Merritt) say, "... They look identical. I did extensive editing on the original file, ..." So ... are they identical or not? If you did extensive editing on the one and not the other it doesn't really make sense that they are identical ... the file size should be different and the edits should be apparent ...shouldn't they?

mseymour
August 22nd, 2009, 09:00 AM
PSE6 on a PC. The only thing I can think of is that I emailed the original file and that created the file(1). I edited on a copy which was called file (copy). Then I saved the file, no file(1).

lbjiowa
August 22nd, 2009, 11:12 AM
Why is there a file and a file(1)? They look identical. I did extensive editing on the original file, but I have no idea why file(1) showed up. PSE6, by the way.

PSE6 on a PC. The only thing I can think of is that I emailed the original file and that created the file(1). I edited on a copy which was called file (copy). Then I saved the file, no file(1).

A PC ay? Well then ... that does make a bit of a difference ... did you email it using the email function in Elements?

JAW
August 22nd, 2009, 12:27 PM
You edited on the copy and saved the original - correct?
So now what was your question or inquiry again?

Stonehenge at sunset or sunrise) don't remember

Just click on the picture.

http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/154qdsVSVEpsqxjTfKSy4ZU5qGlgh1_thumb.png (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=154qdsVSVEpsqxjTfKSy4ZU5qGlgh1)

mseymour
August 22nd, 2009, 01:40 PM
No, I used Roadrunner email. PC, PSE6.

mseymour
August 23rd, 2009, 09:34 AM
Emailed similar file; it didn't create file(1). So, guess that wasn't it. PC, Vista, PSE6.

JAW
August 23rd, 2009, 10:47 AM
Hi Merritt,

So sory this did not work for you. Since we have different systems - you a PC and me a Mac, Leopard, this may be the reason it dinn't work as I threaded earlier. :( Do wish I could have helped - maybe next time.

Hopefully, someone will have an answer soon!!

I wish you all the best on your quest.

mseymour
August 23rd, 2009, 11:21 AM
No problem.

Wendy
August 23rd, 2009, 03:13 PM
Hi Merritt ...

Are these images by any chance Raw files ??

Wendy

mseymour
August 23rd, 2009, 06:48 PM
No, They're not RAW files.

Wendy
August 24th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Hi Merritt ...

Lets start again from the beginning ...

Was the file in the Organiser or not ??

... and what exactly did you do

... and what exactly do you have now

It maybe easier to sort out if you walk us through all the steps you took ... hopefully we will then be able to work out what has happened :)

Wendy

mseymour
August 24th, 2009, 08:57 AM
PC, Vista, PSE6.

Not in Organiser, in Editor

1. Established file
2. Edited file many times
3. Saved after each edit
4. E-mailed file
5. Noticed File[1]
6. Contacted you guys
7. Edited again
8. When I saved, PSE6 asked if it should save as a set. Answered yes. PSE6 created a new file called File_Edited-1.psd. Now I have three (3) files: File.psd, File[1].psd and File_Edited-1.psd.

(The File is actually named AndyAlone.)

mseymour
August 24th, 2009, 02:01 PM
Well, File[1].psd disappeared, so now I just have two files: File.psd and File_Edited-1.psd. Guess PSE6 and Vista are doing their own thing! Actually, this way makes sense. I'm left with the original file and the edited file.