Windows 7

[tmnader]

Has anyone tried Windows 7 beta 64-bit with elements 7.0? I am thinking of signing up for the 12 month free beta trial and taking advantage of the 64-bit processing.

[Chuck Engels]

I don't think it will really make a lot of difference unless you have over 4GB of RAM.
Premiere Elements is not a 64bit application so it will not help there at all.

People have gotten Premiere Elements 7 running on Windows 7, some with good success and some without. Most likely driver issues, can you get Windows 7 drivers for all of your hardware? Especially your Video, Audio and DVD burner.

[tmnader]

From what I understand is that one of the neat features of Windows 7 is that it allows for automatic compatibility for older drivers (i.e. xp or vista). Good to know that 64-bit will not help with Premiere. I am upgrading my Ram from 2 gig to either 4 or 8 gig depending on what deals there are. Have you seen the prices for RAM these days-it is insanely low.

[Chuck Engels]

RAM is really getting cheap and that sure is a good thing.
Be sure to let us know how you get along with Windows 7 ;)

[ATR]

tmnader

If you sign up for Windows 7 beta, are you going to be doing this on its own computer system? In other words, will you have your old computer system to fall back on if case of emergency?

You probably know that Premiere Elements including 7 and probably 8 as well is a 32 bit application. And, when in a 64 bit system, runs in the 32 bit compatibility mode. It is my recollection that in Windows XP 64 you do the setting for that, whereas in Windows Vista 64 that setting is automatic.

Reviews on Window 7 beta are starting to accumulate online, maybe take a look before you make any decisions. In one, it commented that there was a problem installing one of the Adobe Creative Suites. It was a quick look at the reviews and incomplete. Although CS4 was the topic of discussion in the following link, I thought that you might find it interesting....

http://www.softwarenewsdaily.com/2009/03/upgrade-to-64-bit-vista-for-adobe-cs4

If you do evaluate Windows 7, of course my first question will be how did it install, followed by a thousand other questions. I am wondering what Adobe is doing with its Premiere Elements 8 (probably due out in October 2009) for it to be compatible with Windows 7.

ATR

[Vesta]

ATR,
I have been waiting for the PSE 8 and Pe 8 to see if they will work on Vista but after reading this (http://www.softwarenewsdaily.com/2009/04/windows-7-will-include-windows-xp-mode) section on the same link you referred tmnader to I feel confident that Windows 7 with the XP Mode as explaiined would make this all possible.

I have vista 64 bit on a new machine that I want to use for video editing but am waiting for the Adobe 8's this fall. I will continue to monitor reports about Windows 7.

[ATR]

Vesta

Thanks for the great link. I recall seeing that, but never got around to finding it again and posting it.

Photoshop Elements 8 and Premiere Elements 8 try out versions before purchases would seem advisable whatever the operating system, especially the new one.

I am looking forward to your feedback on Vista64 and the versions of Premiere Elements.

ATR

[tmnader]

Well, I gave Windows 7 64-bit a try with Premiere E 7. Everything loaded fine and looked to be going well until I started to add effects. The program would not run any effects-no error messages. I admit I did not problem shoot this b/c I have a project that I have to finish, so I went back to xp 32-bit side of things(dual boot). I will report more when I get some time to play around. Just wondering if anyone else has played with Windows 7 64 or 32 bit.

[ATR]

tmnader

I have probably mentioned in these threads already, I am just a Windows XP Professional 32 bit computer user. BUT, I have a visit planned to a relative in about a week. Last that I heard, this relative was testing Windows 7. I may bring along my copy of Premiere Elements 7 and try to install it on that Windows 7 and do some basic testing including applying effects to video. (That is, if my request to do that does not get me tossed out the door. I also have to find out if that Windows 7 is 32 or 64 bit.) Did you run into problems trying to use all of the effects or just some. And, if just some, which ones?

What was the source of the video on the Timeline to which you applied these effects? Did you run into this problem even if the source of the video on the Timeline was DV AVI?

I would really like to see this testing with Premiere Elements 8 installed on Windows 7 32 and/or 64 bit, but we will not see Premiere Elements 8 until around Thanksgiving 2009. And, in the past, Adobe has not let out information about the upcoming version until it is actually released.

Looking forward to your reports on this matter,

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

Most likely a video driver issue, did you find compatible drivers for all of your hardware?

[ATR]

CE

Does your comment mean that you worked with your Premiere Elements 7 on a Windows 7 64 bit operating system (set for 32 compatibility mode), applied effects to the video, and no glitches?

tmnader

With your Windows 7 64 bit operating system and Premiere Elements 7, did you have to set Windows 7 to a 32 compatibility mode? I ask this because all reports that I have seen say, that with "Windows XP 64 bit", 32 bit compatibility mode needs to be set versa "Vista 64 bit", 32 bit compatibility mode is automatically set by the system.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

CE

Does your comment mean that you worked with your Premiere Elements 7 on a Windows 7 64 bit operating system (set for 32 compatibility mode), applied effects to the video, and no glitches?



No, I did not. But from experience with 64bit OS I do know that most video editing problems are caused by incompatible, incorrect, or just plain bad drivers. This is especially true with video and audio. In the case of effects the video/graphics card is used to display the effect, that is why I would think that is the place to look first.

I diagnose software and hardware problems everyday at work in my real life ATR. Fortunately I am right a good percentage of the time, that's one of the reasons why I still have a real job :)

[ATR]

CE

In my real job as a troubleshooter, I live and work with details. And, it is those details that keep my success rate high. Since I plan to try out Premiere Elements 7 in a Windows 7 (hopefully 64 bit) soon, it was important for me to know if you had actually tried it. That is part of my troubleshooting designed in gene. I will give you these parables....say Henry Ford were to offer you a brand new car and he told you how great it was, would not you want to try it yourself first or know if he had? And, if the odds were 10:1, it would be good to know that you were not the 1.

Anyway, I think it is important to define the facts so that we can put it together wherever we are.

ATR

[tmnader]

ATR/CE
I most likley fired that email about windows 7 a bit prematurely without a commitment to try different stuff. I am trying to finish this project before I dive into W7. I did nothing but load the program and fire up some footage. ATR-I hope you are able to do some tests. CE-I have not checked out my video driver status, I just relied on what was loaded up automatically on the W7 install, which will be the first place I start when I return.

[ATR]

tmnader

Thanks for the additional information. I will keep you updated on my plan to try out Windows 7 (hopefully 64 bit) with Premiere Elements 7. I will do some preliminary check out tomorrow to see if my request will be welcomed by the relative with the Windows 7.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

CE
say Henry Ford were to offer you a brand new car and he told you how great it was, would not you want to try it yourself first or know if he had? And, if the odds were 10:1, it would be good to know that you were not the 1.


I may or may not want to try the car, I know enough that I don't want to try Premiere Elements on Windows 7 and definitely not on a 64 bit OS.

If 20 people told me they bought the car and had trouble with the transmission, then another person came to me and said he had the car too but it wouldn't shift right, I would tell him to have the transmission checked.

Same difference here, I have heard from many people running Premiere Elements on a 64 bit OS. Most of them that have had problems have had problems with the drivers, it is just a logical place to start. This has nothing to do with Windows 7 necessarily, although that may be an issue as well.

In troubleshooting I believe in looking at the obvious first, that will very often solve the problem quickly. If the obvious doesn't work then we move on to the next level of support, but try the easy stuff first is my approach.

Neither is right or wrong, and both methods work very well as we are proof of that :)

[ATR]

Since tmnader seems to have his side in focus at this stage, we shall await further details from him.

ATR