Organiser q please

[stacy_123]

Hi Guys,
is it poss' to have Elements installed on one drive but have the ORGANISER installed on a seperate external drive?.

Reason i ask is--- i have just bought an extrernal drive, mainly for photo, storage but if ORGANISER is also storing copies of the same images, on the same drive, does this not defeat my purpose.

Hope that makes sense, thanks in advance.
S:confused:

[Juergen D]

The Organizer does not store photos. It catalogs them. You cannot install the Organizer on a different drive from the Editor.

However, you can tell the Organizer to download your photos to the EHD. Or you can move your photos to the EHD and import them into the Organizer. Or photos that are already 'organized' can be moved from within the Organizer to a new location.

Juergen

[stacy_123]

Thanks very much Jurgen,
I kinda suspected as much but wasnt sure, now that i've moved most of my images to the EHD, will organiser automaticaly detect the new locations, or will i have to do some jiggery pokery to tell it i have moved them?
S
--ps. as a matter of interest does organiser use much mem' in comparison to other systems such as Bridge?

[stacy_123]

Me again Juergan---oops spelt your name wrong in the last post(sorry).

I seem to to get conflicting advice on system set up/ installation and to be totally honest i'm a bit (a lot) confused especially regarding RAM allocation, cashe levels/scratch discs,
if i give you my set up could you advise on a set up that should be effective in my case,
elements 4
1.5 gig ram
20 gig hd
320 ehd

any help would be most welcome.:)

[Juergen D]

OK, the photos that were already in the Organizer should have been moved from within the Organizer. If you moved them in Explorer, the Organizer will not know where they are. You could try to reconnect them, but that is cumbersome and may not work properly.

At this point I suggest to move them back with Explorer to their original location and then go into Organizer and move them with it.

Juergen

[dj_paige]

Any PSE installation puts some of the necessary information on the system drive (usually the C: drive on most computers). There is no way to change this during the install, or after the install.

However, you can install the rest of PSE on an EHD, if you so desire. This includes most of the large files needed to run PSE. In the installer program, you can custom install to any location. Please understand that in this case, PSE will not run if you move the EHD to another computer.

Your question about the Organizer is somewhat unclear. If you are asking about the Organizer catalog file, this file can also exist on any drive. By default, it goes to the C: drive (and I don't think you can change the default location of the catalog). Once your catalog is created, you can move the catalog to an EHD, and then double-click on the catalog file to launch PSE and use the catalog on the EHD. Thereafter, PSE remembers the location of the catalog on the EHD, so you can launch PSE normally.

[Juergen D]

A 20 Gig HD is a bit small but should suffice if it is clean and defragged. You are probably best off if you set the Scratch Disks to C: first and second to the drive letter of the EHD.

Juergen

[stacy_123]

Thanks Guys,
sorry if i was unclear-- yes the 20 gig is very small--
it is partitioned into 2 --c--10gig
d-- 10gig---this is why a got the ehd,
i was having probs' when i initally installed E4 to c-drive so i uninstalled it then re installed it to d-drive (i was told it works better not inst' on c-?)

my twisted logic was E4 could then have all of drive d 10gig to itself with all the images residing on the EHD 320gig. I then thought if the organiser is taking loads of room also, i could put it on th ehd as well.

The C drive is full to bursting with only 15% free space but D now has 40% free.

i was also told that the scratch discs should not be allocated to the same drive as the editor??
Any ideas/
s

[dj_paige]

The organizer file itself doesn't grow too large, compared to the size of your photos. Mine is around 50MB and there are around 13,000 photos. It tends to grow as you make changes to the catalog, mine has been as large as 150MB, but you can compact it regularly to keep it smaller and keep it "healthy". Use File->Catalog->Recover (that's what the command is in PSE5, its something else in PSE6 and PSE7)

[stacy_123]

Many Thanks, DJ and J,
you've both been extremly helpful, i've only been touching the tip, of the tip of the digi iceberg, my interests were purely in the film genre but i had to succumb after reading about a fine photographer, Martin Evening, having a debate with a Digi' guy about sensitivities of film grain over pixels. He had to admit defeat when the digi' guy produced an image of Martins most sensitive film, it was an image of the actual grain of his image,....in pixels.

Anyhoo...what I've gone ahead and done is_
as i havent really used the organiser as it was intended, (I hadnt tagged or cat'd anything too much), so instead of moving files all over the place, i've deleted everything in the org' and i'm just going to start afresh, tagging etc as i work.

I wasnt going to get into the whole organiser thing, as i thought i'll just have to redo the whole thing again in bridge but i just read an article from a guy using CS and Elements, he say's " he prefers ORG' over BR', easier workflow" so maybe it wont be time wasted at all. (any views?)

I'm loving some of the HDR stuff that seems all the rage at the mo' even if some of it looks a little cartoony (think i might d/load the Topaz Adjust trial).
Looks like i'll have to try it the old fashioned way tho' (tripod and a subject that dosent move), the exposure bracket on my camera will do the 3 frame trick but the exposure stops are to close to make a decent range.

Anyhoo.. thanks again, must toodle off and explore the site, see what everyones up to.
S:)