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Mariajl
January 16th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Of course the book wont' tell me... and the knowledge base on their website was cluttered and useless.
I have to take pics tomorrow and want to know if I can shoot in RAW.
Obviously, if PS7 won't convert... it would be a baaaad idea.

Anyone have info?

Thanks!!

Ron_M
January 16th, 2009, 04:37 PM
Of course the book wont' tell me... and the knowledge base on their website was cluttered and useless.
I have to take pics tomorrow and want to know if I can shoot in RAW.
Obviously, if PS7 won't convert... it would be a baaaad idea.

Anyone have info?

Thanks!!

Generally yes, but it depends on the make of your camera. What camera do you have?

Mariajl
January 16th, 2009, 10:30 PM
I would love to say I have a Nikon D700.
Alas, I can only admit to having a Nikon D40.

NLAlston
January 17th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Mariajl,

This may not be of much help to you, but I tried a little something to see if a determination could made on the matter, for you. I don't have the Nikon D40. Mine is the Nikon D300. I shot a .NEF file, and imported it into PSE7. The program read the file, with no problem, and I could tweak it at will. I know that my camera is a different model from yours, but I figured that the program would definitely convert your RAW files, if it did the ones from my camera. However, nowhere could I see to convert it to Jpeg (which is what I am assuming you wanted). DNG, or dng, were the only 'save' options that I could see. Hope this helps.

NLAlston
January 17th, 2009, 02:15 AM
Mariajl,

I don't know what I was thinking, because you have, undoubtedly, tried .NEF files from your D40 already (I must be sleepy :)). At any rate, I hope that you are able to make a success of your shoot, later on today.

athegn
January 17th, 2009, 03:31 AM
Your D40 has been covered by ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) for some time; introduced in ACR 3.7. PSE version 4 and onwards will process your Nef files. See this link if you have any ACR problems http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb407110&sliceId=2

NLAlston
January 17th, 2009, 04:19 AM
Your D40 has been covered by ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) for some time; introduced in ACR 3.7. PSE version 4 and onwards will process your Nef files. See this link if you have any ACR problems http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb407110&sliceId=2

Hi there.

I wonder if you could clarify something for me. If a program can open up a particular camera's RAW file, is that to say that said program should also be able to fully process it? I'm just wondering, because I see no way to render a JPEG, or TIFF from a RAW file in PSE7. I have other programs (such as Lightroom & ACDsee Pro) which would handle such needs, but it would be nice to do as much as I could in the same arena that I would be working in. I guess I am really just trying to ascertain that all is well with the PSE7's installation.

TonyW
January 17th, 2009, 05:02 AM
You certainly can. When you press Open in the ACR editor it open the RAW file in the PSE7 editor and you can then save in any of the available formats. Just remember that the bit depth (8 or 16) will determine which formats are available to save in. So if you open in 16 bit saving in JPEG will not be available because JPEG doesn't support 16 bit.

Tony

Codebreaker
January 17th, 2009, 06:52 AM
i.....s that to say that said program should also be able to fully process it?

Just a response to your question. You'll find that the processing capability of Elements is very much reduced compared with Lightroom or the full version of Photoshop. Whether or not it meets your needs depends largely on what you need to do.

If you already have Lightroom then I'd stay with that and not try and mix both programs. This can sometimes cause some problems unless you carefully set up LR and Elements to use XMP files.

Colin

TonyW
January 17th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Colin: Good point and thanks for the clarification. PSE7 does indeed only give access to a limited set of tabs in the ACR editor however if you process in Lightroom and save the metadata with the RAW file (ie create the xmp file) and you have updated to the latest version of ACR in PSE7 (5.2) PSE7 will at least recognize all the edits you made in Lightroom even though you can only change the limited set.

Tony

Mariajl
January 17th, 2009, 10:23 AM
I am a bit confused.

Athegn replied above that I should have been able to use RAW in Elements since v.4. What I currently have installed is version 5 and all I get are error messages when I insert the SD card and all the "auto" stuff commences for importing the pictures into Elements. It refers only to the NEF files.

Assuming v.7 will open the raw files.....

...can someone please describe to me the saving method (since someone said it is a special process).

And...uh...

Please tell me as if you are talking to a 5 year old.
Wait.
Describe is as if you are talking to somone who knows nothing about the technical bits of computer software.
(Cause a 5 year-old might know more.)

Thanks for all the help so far.
You guys are a great resource.
I am sure I'll find myself lurking often.

.

ravenswings
January 18th, 2009, 04:54 AM
Open in the ACR editor it open the RAW file in the PSE7 editor


Hmmmmm, where is that in the menu? Just bought a D90 and a trial version of E.7 and cannot open its raw files but can open the D40X's raw....
I downloaded plug-in 5.2 to my older 6 version....D90 raw still won't open...

athegn
January 18th, 2009, 05:24 AM
I wonder if you still have the Nikon software loaded. Nikon software can high jack a file that you want to open in ACR.

Do a search in the Adobe ACR forum for Nikon software taking over RAW files:-

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.3bbd164e

ravenswings
January 18th, 2009, 05:57 AM
Would that software be from the D90 or in the thread's original author's case, a D40?

athegn
January 18th, 2009, 08:26 AM
I have not got a Nikon but I believe that the software supplied by Nikon to process their nef files can cause the problem. If you search the Adobe ACR forum, link in earlier post, you will find the reasons.

ravenswings
January 19th, 2009, 02:53 PM
The best thing I did for myself, and I will pass it along to others, is to call the Adobe Help number. I got a patient and friendly gentleman who guided me through the installation of RAW 5.2 to my new Elements 7. Without that help, I never could have done it, for the directions by Adobe that are online leave out a few details that make the difference between success and failure. The next time I run into problems, it's right to the telly.

Danudin
January 19th, 2009, 05:57 PM
The best thing I did for myself, and I will pass it along to others, is to call the Adobe Help number. I got a patient and friendly gentleman who guided me through the installation of RAW 5.2 to my new Elements 7. Without that help, I never could have done it, for the directions by Adobe that are online leave out a few details that make the difference between success and failure. The next time I run into problems, it's right to the telly.

If there are differences that you were told of how about passing them on to the rest of us? WE ALL NEEDS TO KNOW!

I run PSE7 with a Nikon D70s (or two) and have had no problems with raw at all, and I haven't installed ACR5.2.

Ron

ravenswings
January 20th, 2009, 06:02 PM
Through the fone conversation, I was able to download the file and then copy and paste the proper file to the right folder. That's the Camera raw 8 file. I had no idea how to do that and where to find the downloaded file since the destination for the download was not known. It had randomly located itself in another folder. Once found, I copied and pasted it into the file format folder. Voila, done. I think that the directions in Adobe are hard to follow for poor readers such as I.