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Storm
September 5th, 2008, 01:18 AM
I have a Canon PIXMAiP4500 and cannot get Canon Paper from Staples my only outlet & where I bought my printer.
.I went to the Canon.ca & found Matte, Glossy & Plus Glossy but it does not list my printer amongst the Compatible models . It shows the 4200 & 4300 but not 4500.
Does anyone know anything about these Canon Printers ?
Is the 4300 & 4500 pretty much the same. ?
Anyone using different brand of papers with a Canon. ?
Thanks. Storm

Codebreaker
September 5th, 2008, 04:38 AM
I don't know the 4300 but I do have the 4500 and I'd hazard a guess that they are very similar. Canon only produce the one series of papers which are good for all their printers.

I don't really use the IP4500 for photo work, prefering my Epson, but I have found that Kodak Ultima paper works better in the Canon than their own brand (.....but that may just be my preference as images are very subjective.) Kodak papers also come with a crib sheet that tells you the setting for various printers, plus there is info on the Kodak web site about this.

Colin

dyale
September 5th, 2008, 07:12 AM
I use Red River Paper http://www.redrivercatalog.com/
Dean

frank abramonte
September 5th, 2008, 08:25 AM
Storm, I have a Canon i560 printer and I use Staple's inks with Staple Satin paper and Kodak Semi Gloss paper with great results.
I find that the glossy papers show every flaw and distract from viewing the print because of the glare.
The matte papers are just too blah and flat.
The instruction sheets inside the packages gives you the paper profiles (paper types) to use.

Jeff Perry
September 5th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Storm, I have the predecessor to the iP4300, the iP4200, and assuming that your iP4500 came with and installed the ICC profiles for the Canon paper during set-up you are good to go.

There three things that are important for every printer, the Ink, the Paper, and ICC profies (for use by programs that do a better job of managing color then Windows, like CS3 and PSE).

OEM ink is carefully match to OEM papers, and most printer manufactures that also brand their own ink and paper will also include ICC printer profiles that are installed when you set up the printer for the first time.

Use aftermarket (third party) inks and papers with caution. I NEVER use third party ink, or re-ink old cartirdges. I do try a lot of differnet papers, especially special purpose paers and cards, etc. Some I like and can match up with my Canon inks even if they didn't come with ICC profiles, thru trial and error. Others don't work well for me.

Fortunately, most paper manufacturues sell sample packs that allow you to try most/all of their different stock. Some thrid party papers have ICC profiles for specific printers available from the mfgs web site, e.g., Ilfrod and Red River. Those that don't supply porfiles, or don't have one for your printer, just means the old trial and eroor routine to see what works best.

Bottom line, if you buy a Canon printer, buy Canon ink that is made for it, and use Canon paper, and you are good to go.

Jeff

Storm
September 5th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Thank you for your help. I can get Kodak paper easy so will try that first .
I always buy the Printers own new Ink learnt about filling up the hard way.
Thanks. Storm

Jeff Perry
September 6th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Good decision. Many good quality papers will perform well as their counterpart branded in the set-up when printing from PSE. Make sure you select the right type of paper from the the printer set-up dialog. Because Canon has several different glossy papers you'll have to try all of them (in the set-up) with Kodak glossy to find the best match.

Jeff

Not4wood
September 6th, 2008, 10:27 AM
First off you have a ton of great information here.

Next up, if you use other papers besides Canon, you can go to there site and download an ICC profile so the editing program can recognize what paper your using and how to print on it.

Also, the only other thing you have to be careful of is the paper weight. If your using other then Canon Paper depending on the quality or other things the weight is what might change. Most papers are within the limits of the usual printers but I just saw a higher quality paper with a heavier weight. For example, I am holding in my lap as I type this the box of new Glossy paper I just purchased from Staples. BTW, depending on how you print Canon, Epson and also HP can be used in each others printers as well as Kodak and all the others. You just have to find out which papers give you the best results that you like. For Glossy I use HP for my HP Printer. For Matte or actually Pearl I use Ilford with a downloaded ICC Profile.

Paper Weight: Each printer has a limit on how heavy the paper can be for the printer to be able to use without any problems or paper jams. The box in my lap is 250g/m 2 or 66lbs and I can up to 290g/m 2 if I see paper that I like. But I cant go over that paper weight.

Good luck and let us know what happens.