DVD Burning process stops

[boxman]

When burning a dvd with music the burn process starts and counts down and then just stops with no error associated.
Brand new dell computer.

[FutureDirt]

Can you export your project to a DVD folder or image?

[MikeH]

How big is the slide show?

[wsimon]

I am having the same problem.

I made a beautiful slideshow for my parents 60th Wedding Anniversary in PSE 4.0. I followed the procedure for getting it into Premiere. PSE 4.0 saves it as a wmv and then it is automatically sent to Premiere. A rendering process starts in Premiere, then an encoding process and it stops about 1/8 into that process..............no error message, nothing???

I'm sure most of you seasoned users would advise me to make my slideshow in Premiere but it is too complex for me and I don't have the time to devote to learning it right now. I'm comfortable with PSE 4.............unless of course there is an easy way to remake it in Premiere???

I am so frustrated.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
:confused:

[Chuck Engels]

Have you burned anything with your DVD burner before? How long is the slide show?

[wsimon]

Yes, I'ved burned quite a few DVD's of various types (audio, data, back-ups, etc.

The slideshow is 30 minutes in length, and has 16 audio tracks on it. :confused:

Wendy

[soundmillwil]

I had a similar problem. When I closed the timeline window, the one where you can view all 16 tracks, etc. and then went through the process as normal, it worked.

It shouldn't have to be that way but give it a shot.

:rolleyes:

[wsimon]

Thanks for your info............I don't want to sound dumb but for the life of me I cannot find where to close the Timeline............Timeline being the bottom portion of the screen where you view your slideshow in slides.

[soundmillwil]

Oh, you must be using 2.0?? Sorry, I didn't mention I was still in the dark ages with 1.0 where you have a standard "close this window" red X in the corner.

My understanding is 2.0 is setup differently so that all windows effect one another when resizing. See if there is a way to unlock those windows or use a legacy view so that you can close only the timeline.

It's a shot in the dark but I'd be interested to know if it helps.

GOOD LUCK!

[Chuck Engels]

You first need to drag the Timeline to the very top of your screen. Grab it by the tab and drag to the very top of the screen and then let go. This will make the timeline a free floating window, with an X you can use to close it. To bring it back use the options in the Windows menu.

[wsimon]

Well guys.....YIKES!!!

I spent most of the day on and off fooling with burning a DVD in Premiere and finally got it.

It's a rather convoluted way of doing it but I did it. I documented the entire process in a WORD document. If anyone is interested it is attached to this message.

To make a long story short.....you output your slideshow as a wmv and then render it as an avi and then Premiere will burn it.

I would be most interested in hearing any feedback from others that this works for or does not work for.

Good Luck!
Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Very nice work Wendy. The only change I would make is in the Output from PSE4, choose 'Burn to DVD', then 'DVD' and choose 'NTSC' for North America and Japan, 'PAL' for pretty much everywhere else. The WMV file is created automatically and you don't choose a size (800 x 600) the size of 720x480 (NTSC) is automatically set for you also. But the part about exporting as AVI is excellent advice and your encoding and burning time was right on target, about 2 times the length of your project :) Very nice work!!

[tfry]

Wendy,

Great Job!

[wsimon]

Thanks Chuck and Tami!
A couple of things that I found in troubleshooting today…..bear with me….I’m pretty new to all of this and I'm an old grandma of sorts..... (Seriously…..my children are probably close to your ages……32-44) :D

Today in trying to burn a DVD via Chuck’s revisions of my WORD doc. I went back to having the same old problems as before………….that being, the burn hang-ups. The burn got about 1/8 thru the final burn and shut down….ONLY THIS TIME there was a teenie error message that was hardly visible within the burn dialog box: "An operating system error: Gdiplus.dll:: Satus 0x00000002. This message has never come up before until today.

Apparently the gdiplus.dll file is used by Windows and other applications to manipulate 2D graphics, specifically JPEG images and can also affect the security of your operating system.

It seems certain versions of Windows XP, Service Pack 2 and select Sony/Sonic components have faulty and unsafe versions of the gdiplus.dll file…..which is found on your C drive/Program Files/Common Files/Microsoft Shared/INK. The faulty version is 5.1.3102.1316.

Upon further investigating I found the following Microsoft links:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6A63AB9C-DF12-4D41-933C-BE590FEAA05A&displaylang=en

http://cs.sonic.com/scripts/texcel/swise/ksearch.dll?DisplayDetail?12&0&0&1&12&2947&12&GDIPlus%20

I downloaded the patch for the non-faulty gdiplus.dll file from Microsoft (Security Update KB886179/Windows Journal Viewer.....you do not need to remove the earlier version of Window Journal Viewer).

And WAH-LAH ;) ……the burn did not hang-up!!YIPPEE!!! Big Smiles!!:D
Granted, I've only tried this once but I plan to do another this afternoon just to make sure it's up and running, trouble-free.

Chuck, Wil, Tami….or anyone……An avi file must be converted to an mpeg2 in order to play on a home DVD player, correct?? Does Premiere store your avi as an mpeg2 after you’ve burned a DVD? If so, I’ve not been able to find them anywhere??

I would much rather do an easy file conversion of a slideshow to an mpeg2 that I can store on my hard drive and burn whenever I’d like to without going thru such a long and tedious process such as converting an avi first via Premiere. I find Premiere 2 rather frustrating and confusing as far as file conversions and where and how they store your files.

My intentions are not to whine………….but now I went and did so anyway...
Sorry....This has been so frustrating, but if I’ve helped some other poor soul accomplish these tasks in a friendlier, easier fashion then I will have felt blessed.

On a side note……I did end up getting a media converter that I am very, very pleased with. It is Digital Media Converter by Deskshare. It is user-friendly, converts many file formats, and is fast. I researched various media converters and found many good reviews on this one versus others that were troublesome…..thus far I’m very pleased.

Chuck and Tami…..I’ve revised my WORD doc instructions to include Chuck’s editing.

Any other comments or editing from anyone would be graciously appreciated.

I thank God for this forum and for all of the help I’ve gotten from you folks. Thank-You and God Bless! :o
Wendy
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[Chuck Engels]

Wendy, It is amazing what you found about the dll file, excellent troubleshooting :)

When you burn to DVD in Premiere Elements a temp mpeg file is created and then deleted after the file is burned to the DVD. If you want a file that can remain on your computer then you can Burn to Folder rather than DVD. The folder you burn can then be burned as data to a DVD later using a program like Sonic RecordNow or Nero.

[wsimon]

:confused:
I went thru the entire process that I did yesterday and today it doesn't work.
Now I get a message during the final burn that says "No plugin decoder dll"???

WEndy

[wsimon]

I just did it again and it worked ....argh! :confused:
I must have had a "senior moment"
Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Wendy, It is always best to restart your computer just before you burn a DVD. This clears up a lot of stuff like some Windows Temp Files, Cache, RAM, and will make the burning process go much smoother. You don't need to do this more than the 1st time if you are making multiple copies. Everyone would have less problems if they restarted their computer before starting Premiere Elements and then again before burning a DVD :)

[wsimon]

for all your help Chuck..........I did reboot the second time around. That is a good tip! Ya just wish there were all these nifty tips in one place :)
Wendy;)

[Chuck Engels]

There are two places with all the nifty tips, The FAQs on the Adobe Premiere Elements Users Forum (Steve Grisetti does a great job there), and the Premiere Elements 2 In A Snap book :)

[wsimon]

Thanks Chuck.....I've ordered the book!
Questions.....

-When I went to the FAQ sections of the Premiere Forum I tried searching the FAQ's with no luck.....no matter what I type in the search, nothing comes up. Clicking on the "Search FAQ" brings up nothing???? Perhaps I'm missing something??? Is there a way to look at the entire accumulation of FAQ's??

-When I use my media converter (other software) what is the best file format to convert a slideshow to..............mpeg2?? What is the difference between and mpeg, mpeg1 and mpeg2???

Thanks ahead of time....:o
Have a Good Day Chuck!
Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Search from the main page of the forum or from the main page of the FAQ. Once you are in one of the FAQs the search will only search the one you are in. If you need I will post the link of where to start your search from.

It depends on what you want to do with the file; email, website, CD, DVD. For most purposes WMV works very well, for DVD or CD you will want to use MPEG2 if you have space MPEG1 if the video is more than 700mb as MPEG2. MPEG1 is more compressed than MPEG2 and does not look near as nice.

[wsimon]

I don't mean to sound dense but I've tried that......I went to the start page of the Premiere Forum and no matter what I type in or click on it has a "sorry" message?? I've clicked on everything I can think of..........perhaps a link would help???

As far as the mpeg/wmv file formats......I'm mainly doing 30 minute slideshows for folks that have asked me to do this for them. I love the WMV format however the slideshows must be able to play on a DVD player as most of the slideshows are for presentations of one kind or another......so I'm thinking the mpeg2 is the best format for this, no???

Right now I'm doing some reading on WMV and AVI's??? I'm trying to figure out the main difference between the two of them. I've wondered why the process I did with my slideshows in Premiere has so many steps??.....first converting the slideshow to a WMV, then an AVI and then finally burning it. Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.

AND one last note......WOW....I didn't realize you were the co-author of the Snap book!! How wonderful!!..........It does not surprise me......you have a very comprehensive way of explaining things. Congratulations! :):)
Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Thanks Wendy! Here is the link to the main page http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.3bb574e6 just click on Forum Search at the top, do not use quotes in your search.

If you are going to want to play the slide shows on a DVD player connected to a TV, not a computer, then you will need to start actually authoring DVDs not just exporting the files. The quality will be better, you can add menus and music to the menu screen. Have you tried actually burning a DVD yet?

[wsimon]

Hi Chuck,
Yes, I've burned several DVD's using the process that I posted to the forum here (the long WORD doc I posted this past weekend). I thought that that process was the correct process for burning a DVD???

What is authoring??

I did use your link which took me to the Adobe general site. It asked me to login. It asked me for my first/last name and my password......which I completed using my forum registration info but it didn't work..........it says I must first be a registered user of the forums..........which I am???

Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Authoring and burning the DVD is the same thing, which you have done. As you say there are many steps involved. One thing that will save you some steps is to do your slide show in Premiere Elements to start with, saving the export to WMV. You don't need to convert anymore files to any other formats, just create the slide show and burn (author) the DVD.

[wsimon]

Thanks Chuck!

My 30 minute slideshow was made in Photoshop Elements 4.0 and saved as a wmv. WMV's don't play on home DVD players do they? When I presented the slideshow to my parents on Christmas Eve we had to watch it in the wmv file format via my laptop and projector, projected on a wall.

My family is waiting for me to make them copies of the slideshow that they can watch on their home DVD players. I thought the correct process was the one I had written up in a WORD doc. and posted the other day .......
(slideshow in PSE 4.0/save-convert to wmv then to an avi in Premiere and then burn)????

Should I not convert the wmv to an avi prior to burning??

I have to burn 20 DVD's for my family members and I thought I'd clarify the process I should use.

Again.....thank-you for your graciousness and patience with me :o
Wendy

[Chuck Engels]

Wendy, You are doing it perfectly, I am afraid I was a little confused and not understanding you exactly, sorry. Export from PSE4 as WMV into Premiere, export as AVI and use the AVI file in your project, then burn to DVD, yes that will work just fine :)

[wsimon]

Thank-you, Thank-you.......now for the task of burning 20 DVD's!!
You have helped me immensely.....I can't wait to get my book and learn more!!

Blessings to you Chuck!
Wendy:o

[Chuck Engels]

Thanks Wendy - Have Fun!

[murphyspad]

Thank-you, Thank-you.......now for the task of burning 20 DVD's!!
You have helped me immensely.....I can't wait to get my book and learn more!!

Blessings to you Chuck!
Wendy:o

Hello Wendy i had exactly the same problems as you, followed your doc instructions and the first DVD burn was successful. However, subsequent ones following the same procedure now produce an error message during the burn stating that the file is to big. These slide shows are only 30-40minutes long have any thoughts on this .Thank you

[wsimon]

Is your system large enough???......I found that I had to upgrade my memory..........I have 2 GB of Ram.

If Chuck Engels is tuned in here he is a good troubleshooters. He has co-authored a wonderful book specifically about Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0....an excellent resource that has helped me alot!

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.....I do understand how frustrating this can be though! :confused:

[Chuck Engels]

Murphy, At what point do you get the error saying the file is too big? On the Burn DVD screen what does it say the size will be (this is close to the bitrate setting)? Did you do anything on the timeline that may have moved the Work Area Bar to cover more than just the video?

[sandik17]

[QUOTE= only 30-40minutes long have any thoughts on this .Thank you[/QUOTE]

Hi I'm new to the forums here...hoping to learn a lot from you all. I recently bought the bundled photoshop elements 4 and premiere elements 2.

I want to make a slide show with 436 photos (1280x 960) I also have a soundtrack to it as well.
I have tried burning other slide shows (not as large), but when I try this one it freezes early on in the burning phase....gets through the encoding and media stages.

Initially I made the slide show in photoshop elements, but it took many hours and hours to encode and then froze, so I tried doing it in premiere elements....it was much faster but still froze with the overall progress bar almost half-way.

The burner is compatible with the program, as I have had success. Is a 45 min slide show 'bigger' than 45 minutes of 'video' taken from a dv camera?

Is this slide show too big? Can someone help...Chuck I have your combined book on order...can you tell me if it is the same as the 2 separate 'in a snap'.

[Chuck Engels]

Where to start...
Try this, from the main menu select File/Export/Movie. Leave it at the default settings, name the AVI file and press OK. Make sure to note the location of the file. Now open a new project and using Add Media import the file you just created then try again to burn the DVD, it should work this time. If you cannot export the AVI file that will be another problem to deal with.

Let me know what happens.

The combined book (All In One) is only half of each of the In A Snap books but contains 3 additional chapters. It mostly has the intermediate parts of the two books, leaving out a lot of the beginner and advanced material.

[sandik17]

Chuck, thanks so much for your help! It worked....well sort of...

We did what you suggested (word for word), and yes, the burning process finished, however, when we play back the slideshow in parts the music 'skips' and then about 5 minutes into the show, it freezes - music stops and photo is stuck.

Any suggestions with this problem.
There was no problem with the avi file and as I said, the burning process appeared to have been without fault. Does it sound like my burner???

[Chuck Engels]

This can be a couple things; how many DVD players have you tested the DVD on? Some DVD players just don't play burned DVDs very well.

The other possibility is that you are using cheap DVD discs. Some discs are terrible, and some are worse. There are also some very reliable ones, check out this link http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia be sure to scroll down and look for the DVDs with lots of the word Good in blue letters on the right.

[sandik17]

I tried the dvd on my dvd player (in the lounge) and also on my computer...both froze at the same spots.

Then tried taking avi file and burning it in sonic...and no problems. (with the same discs).

I really want to be able to do it all in Premiere elements.
I have a dell computer with a philips burner. I have burnt video files ok with PE2, but there is certainly a problem with this slide show.?????
Any other ideas?

ps...thanks for your time and advice thus far also!

[betty]

I,ve read some of your problems. Now I understand I need an extra program to convert wmv files to something else and after that burn a DVD?My slide show looks great on computer but...

[Chuck Engels]

You need a firmware update for the philips burner, I had the same problem when I got mine. You can get the update from the Dell support site.

[murphyspad]

Chuck the "file is too big message" always appears after the encoding process is complete.It does not matter how long the shows are for example i treied to burn one that was only 5 minutes long with two audio tracks

[Chuck Engels]

Murphy, How many hard drives do you have? How much free space is on them? Have you defragmented your drives lately? How are your paging files set up? Are your drives formatted FAT32 or NTFS?

I still think you will get more help on the Adobe forum if you would post your problem there. There are a lot of very nice people that can help you there, I am one of them but I am running out of ideas. You really need to get a perspective from someone else and they have a lot of knowledge in that forum :)

[murphyspad]

I have just posted and will keep my fingers crossed, thank you for taking the trouble to try and sort me out i will let you know if i eventually get to the bottom of this

[Plainsman]

New Premiere user. Just joined Forum, most helpful. Followed Wendy's guide to burn a slide show. Ok 90% through "Burning Disc 1 of 1/Burn in Progress". Ended with a unknown error 2131427532. Have you seem this error? Any suggestions. Thanks very much.

[Chuck Engels]

Plainsman, Have you updated the burner Firmware?

[briansl]

I too had this problem... 4.08 into the dvd rendering process and it just stopped. I followed advice, switched out of timeline view and it worked.

Thanks.

I'm SO glad to find this site!

[ATR]

Briansl

Although this thread goes back two years, I am glad that the suggestions in it got you pass your burn problem. Often you will find all problems with the same symptoms are not caused by the same thing. Frequently it is very difficult locating appropriate info in the Search here, so I congratulate you are your searching.

The versions have changed since 2005 - 2006, so if you run into problems with the newer version, please do not hesitate to post, but start a new thread so that your question does not get lost.

Continued success.

ATR