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Elo
September 1st, 2008, 02:19 PM
I was unable to replicate printing on MACOSX PSE6. works great on PSE4. I sent cd with images some printed images on art paper to adobe in amsterdam. After weeks of discussions phone, email and after testing using their work flow....they came back


Finally a couple of replies from Adobe re colour problems and they have accepted that they are double managing the image and that I should use printer management to do the colour conversion.. here are their two replies and the comment that they will now drop me until???????

Answer #1

Your Customer Service Number is: 129800224

Thank you for contacting Adobe Technical Support.

After consulting with my colleagues about the issue you raised, I can let you know the following:

The issue is both on our as well as the driver software side and the workaround we have given is the best available at this time. This issue is affecting all printers, not just Epson or Canon.

The soft proofing effect that you are seeing in the print preview is indeed an attempt at soft proofing. However since Photoshop Elements managed prints are incorrectly double colour managed it is not as useful as it was initially designed.

As to the exact details of why this occurred, we have no official information.

We believe that this will resolve the issues you are experiencing, however, should the reply not help solve the problem, please contact us again, quoting the case number given above, and we will re-open the case.

Answer # 2
Subject: Re: Adobe TS #180107025 / Mario / PSE6 oversaturated Print (KMM3793441I51L0KM)

Dear Mr. Laugesen,

We have had word back from our engineers regarding your issue.

The Photoshop Elements team are aware of the problem and are working with Apple and the printer manufacturers to get this to work correctly. In the meantime, the only workaround is to switch off colour management in Photoshop Elements and let the printer handle the colour management.

Unfortunately we can not make an estimation as to when a fix will be provided. We will close the case for the time being as there really is nothing more we can do about this issue besides offering the suggested workaround. Closing this case does not mean that the research will stop however and the engineers are working on a solution to this.

ljameso1
September 1st, 2008, 02:43 PM
Elo, I've avoided this issue by never letting PSE or the printer color manage. Prior to printing I re-calibrate my mac with the built-in calibrater. Click on the light switch icon at the bottom of your screen and select displays under hardware>color>calibrate. In PSE 6 go to edit>color settings and select no color management. Where you turn off color management in the printer varies, but find and select no color management there as well. The mac calibrator is so good that even on my 6 yr old mac, my test print is frequently my final print. If it's still a lot darker, you may have your display set too bright, giving you a false idea of how bright the pic is.

Elo
September 1st, 2008, 02:57 PM
I think you missed the point...

Adobe accepts they have a problem..

I have done everything correctly according to adobe specialists including the basics you are pointing out to me.

Please note PSE6 for MAC DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY IF YOU LET PSE6 DO THE COLOUR MANAGEMENT FOR PRINTING.

you can calibrate all you want. set all the swithches you want . they have accepted that they have a bug.. and it will only work if you tell PSE6 on the print panel to let the printer manage the printing. DO NOT LET PSE6 DO THE COLOUR MANAGEMENT OF THE PRINTING.

Elo
September 1st, 2008, 03:08 PM
I Printed an images with PSE4 then the same image with PSE6

The image is darker and more saturated with PSE6.

My work requires me to always the same colours. I have done this with all previous versions of Photoshop light, elements 2,3,4 until 6...

I calibrate, calibrate............ use bespoke profiles. etc. etc.....

Adobe looked at the images I mailed to them. They took my CD and images and some of their own and using one of their own printers they came up with the same results as I did and now accept they have a bug problem in PSE6.

They believe they are double managing the image that is converting/applying the conversion process twice.

sorry....