encoding: 3hours vs. 15 hours !

[Tom Blizzard]

The title says it all.

I have a 58 minute project made from two Mini DV camcorders. In the project, I used two video tracks, so I alternated, (cross faded), between the two tracks for various scenes. The first encoding/burn took 3 hours. I did not render before that encoding/ burn. No special reason, I just didn't.
As I normally find, after my first burn, there were some minor things that I needed to correct, which I did and then went back to encode and burn the corrected version of the show.
1. Same computer : Dual core processor, 2 gig ram, with XP.
2. :)Yes, I had just defragged my internal HD which had 100 gig free space. No other programs running. I even turned off my virus protection.

3. Computer took three hours to render and then 15 hours to encode and burn the show. :eek: Got a great sucessful burn... but 15 hours !!! ???

I've never experienced this length of time.

Any ideas or suggestions why this happened?

Regards, Tom B.

P.S. I did search the forum for this problem. I looked at 8 pages of search results, but found no mention of this issue.

[ATR]

Tom,

First I need some small bits of details as I ponder this situation.

1. First time around....You had your content on the Timeline, red line over the Timeline, you did not press Enter to Render the Timeline content and have that red line turn green. You went directly to Share, DVD disk,hit Burn to Disc, and three hours later your DVD-VIDEO popped out finished. That seemed a great encode/burn time for a project of that magnitude.

If I got that right, here comes my question (s). What did you do next, detail per detail.
1. Did you save the project and close the program? Come back later, reopen the project, edit, Burn to Disc, 18 hours later out pops your DVD-VIDEO finished successfully. Or, before you did the Burn to Disc, did you Render the Timeline content by pressing the Enter key, and did that take 3 hours, followed by 15 hours of Encode/Burn after you hit Burn?

2. I think that you said that you had 100 GB of free hard drive space when you started the second go around. How much free hard drive space did you have when before you started the first go around?

It is a gross understatement to say that your system slowed down after the first burn of the project. I am trying to see if I can figure out what could have happened to your RAM and free hard drive space and what you could have accumulated on the internal hard drive after the first burn.

Still thinking, to be continued....

ATR

[Tom Blizzard]

Tom,

First I need some small bits of details as I ponder this situation. OK, I'll answer in bold black below..

1. First time around....You had your content on the Timeline, red line over the Timeline, you did not press Enter to Render the Timeline content and have that red line turn green. Correct.
You went directly to Share, DVD disk,hit Burn to Disc, and three hours later your DVD-VIDEO popped out finished. I'm using version 3 probaly just a small technical difference in headings here: No, I hit "create DVD", selected a menu, and then clicked on "Burn DVD".That seemed a great encode/burn time for a project of that magnitude. I agree

If I got that right, here comes my question (s). What did you do next, detail per detail.
1. Did you save the project and close the program? Yes.
Come back later, reopen the project, edit, Burn to Disc, 18 hours later out pops your DVD-VIDEO finished successfully. (this one ) >>>Or, before you did the Burn to Disc, did you Render the Timeline content by pressing the Enter key, Yes and did that take 3 hours,Yes followed by 15 hours of Encode/Burn after you hit Burn? Yes

2. I think that you said that you had 100 GB of free hard drive space when you started the second go around. How much free hard drive space did you have when before you started the first go around? I did not check then... but it must have been adequate to get a 3 hour encode and burn. ?

It is a gross understatement to say that your system slowed down after the first burn of the project. I am trying to see if I can figure out what could have happened to your RAM and free hard drive space and what you could have accumulated on the internal hard drive after the first burn.

Still thinking, to be continued....

ATR

Thanks for your brain power. This is sure a mystery to me.

[ATR]

Tom,

Test 1 for What you could have added to your system to slow it down for second Burn to Disc. Q: In your case, Scratch Files directed to Internal Hard Drive or External Hard Drive? Assumed Internal Hard Drive.

I have been pondering this issue and have come up with one scenario for what happened, but I need for you to check it out and see it is consistent with what you actually did. Decide whether I speculated off the deep edge.

Assuming you created your project in Premiere Elements 4, arranged, edited, etc. BUT DID NOT EVER RENDER at anytime, then immediately before you went to the Burn to Disc stage, you would have:
Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files, 0 MB
Encoded Files, 0 MB
Media Cache Files, significant amount of MB
(In my test case, I used three AVI MPEG4 files, 17.5 MB, 12.1 MB, 18.7 MB and got:
Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files, 0 MB
Encoded Files, 0 MB
Media Cache Files, 19.3 MB)

You save this project, close Premiere Elements 4, and reopen it and the project to find the same numbers as above for the Scratch files, do some edits, but now Render in Edit Mode by pressing Enter. Then when you went to Burn to Disc stage, you would have:
Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files, very significant amount of MB
Encoded Files, 0 MB
Media Cache Files, significant amount of MB BUT same amount as for saved project.
(In my test case, I got:
Adobe Premiere Elements Preview Files, 351 MB
Encoding Files, 0 MB
Media Cache Files, 19.3 MB

Once you start the Burn to Disc project, you have the "system baggage" of the MBs from Preview Files and the continual build up of the Encoding Files which should add a significant amount of Encoding Files MBs to the mix (in my case, building up to 100 MBs).

Would that slow down your system or no?

ATR

[Tom Blizzard]

Yes!! Never thought of that.:) Thanks for you time just writing it all out for me......Now to go back and experiment....