Multi track editing

[Brido]

I have three video/audio timelines stacked up on top of each other. (3 camera shoot) I have also an MP3 audio of the event that I have imported into the timeline so as to get better sound as may be required.

I need to sync up the audio and video of all the tracks before i start editing.

I need to be able to "switch off" or "hide" or "not hear" or "see" two of the tracks (audio and or video) while I synch each of them up to each other.

Also i need to be able to lock a track

I will greatly appreciate your help.

It is probably so simple that i will kick myself when i I am told.

Brido
(Old and decrepit)

[ATR]

Check out the following recent thread re: locking tracks. Locking tracks is a feature of Premiere Pro, not Premiere Elements, but….
http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35893

As for multicamera editing in Premiere Elements, the place to be is Premiere Pro CS3 with its multicamera editing tools. Check out Terry White’s podcast on that feature in Premiere Pro CS3
http://creativesuitepodcast.com/index.php?post_id=233202

We had a thread recently that dealt with some issue of using Premiere Elements for this purpose. In his thread Tom was using Opacity Keyframing to deal with his multicamera (2) editing in Premiere Elements. It would be worthwhile to read through that thread, taking note of my comments especially in post #35.

To be continued….

ATR

[Brido]

OK, Thanks.

In Premiere Elements it seems as if for video you use the opacity bar to "hide" the video and be able to see the tracks below.

Similarly for audio, but it looks as if a right clip and "hide audio" will hide the top audio track as well.

I still have not found out how to lock a track for such things as J and L cuts.

I was looking for a "button" to press as in PP2 and CS3.

I have CS3 but want to learn Premiere Elements for simple projects where minimal effects etc are needed.

I like what I am seeing and am well through the synching up process.

Thanks.

[ATR]

No buttons in Premiere Elements for locking tracks. Did you try the keyboard shortcuts as described in the chat in that recent thread cited?

Tom has had experience dealing with these issues of multicamera editing in Premiere Elements. Maybe he will see this thread and stop by to offer some comments.

To be continued....

ATR

[Brido]

I am beginning to see how i can make the appropriate cuts and delete audio or delft video to create the L and J transitions.

No, I am new to this forum and did some searches before i posted but I will do some more searches now.

I got quite used to moving the opacity line for multitrack editing and viewing. In fact i have finished my first rough cut of the project.

Titles next, then DVD burning. Does it take long with HDV video to down convert and burn to DVD? Is there something special i might have to do? I have 59 minutes of project to be processed. :(

I am really Liking Prem Elements

[ATR]

The burn time is going to depend essentially on the length of the project and computer speed.

I guess-estimate that your burn time should be several hours.

1. Optimize your computer: defragmentation, no unnecessary programs running in the background, remove junk from computer, virtual memory assessment, etc, etc.
2. Instead of Burn to Disc, you could try Burn to Folder, followed by burning that folder's VIDEO_TS (ONLY) to DVD using a software such as Nero (using the Burn Video Files category, NOT Create Data).

How do you have Premiere Elements setup for your Burn to Disc plan?
1. In the Welcome Screen Setup, did you set for PAL DV Widescreen and were you planning on setting the Share/Burn to Disc preset at PAL_Widescreen_Dolby DVD (although it should have been set automatically when you set the Welcome Screen Setup preset).

It is always a good idea to do a mini test run before the grand project. So, if you have not done that already, I suggest that you do so.

To be continued....

ATR

[Brido]

I feel like I am flying! I have burnt Version 1 and am very pleased with it except of a tiny bit of lip sync problems on close ups. I have now rectified this (Fingers crossed) I do not know how long it took as i went to watch TV!!

Yes i burnt to PAL widescreen Dolby, but I did not set up preferences for it until I saw the dialogue screen for burning. I set them up there. Will look at preferences.

I like the idea of burning to folder. I always did this before CS3 became my NLE. ULead DVD movie factory 6 plus is a good quality burner ( but non intuitive menu maker!) I have used it a lot for burning from a DVD folder.

I have the luxury of of having dual screens but have not found a way of stretching the screen over two screens. I have discovered how to put the monitor on to the second screen. I like the full screen preview ability.

In fact i am very impressed with the programme. I believe I can import the PE files into CS3 also? Is that correct?

I have the feeling that I will using this more frequently than I had anticipated and it is certainly the NLE of choice for my laptop.
When i get this project out of the way i will take time to do the tutorials and learn the shortcuts.

A delighted user ....... and i am always happy to receive advice (more than happy!) :)

[ATR]

Congratulations on your good work.

Re: Importing Premiere Elements 4 projects into Premiere Pro CS3

My reading of Adobe's Premiere Elements 4 Read Me document suggests NO.
Check it out under "Compatibility with other Versions" in the document:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402532&sliceId=1

We will be watching for your progress.

ATR

[Brido]

I did a silly idiot trick, ie I was not concentrating properly and allowed a pan from the speaker... up to the ceiling.. and back to him; to get through on to the final burn!!!!!!. I get so mad at myself letting things like that slip through. It did give an opportunity to tweak the sound a little bit and the Final "2" is being burnt as i speak.
I have a Canon HV20 shooting on HDV Cine mode (PAL) and imported it direct from tape. So i presume it went in as HD video. The 58 minutes with minimum transitions and no video effects takes about 80 minutes to render and burn the DVD. That, to me, is amazingly quick!

However, the quality is much less than i would have got in CS 3 using a CineForm codec ,... but...but...but it would have taken many hours to create the DVD like a whole day and bit!

For this project the quality is not "that" important, but if you guys have any advice as to how to get maximum quality from HDV to DVD (obviously downsized to DV) from within PE 4 I will be pleased to hear it.

In CS3 I have read that the Adobe Media encoder does not do the best job. I do not know what PE4 uses.

I suspect that burning to folder and using my ULead DVD Movie factory 6 plus, to burn to DVD might offer some benefits.

None of what i have offered above about quality comes from personal technical knowledge, (I do not have any! I just like to read a lot!) It is what i have gleaned from other forums and chats with the knowledgeable.

Like i have said before I am always delighted to be directed in the right direction.

Clearly you are right about the CS3 PE non compatibility!

Thanks.

[ATR]

Have you seen the following FAQ from Premiere Elements User to User Forum at Adobe?

What is the best way to downsample HDV for editing in Premiere Elements?
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc434fa

Although under the Premiere Elements 3 FAQ, it should apply to 4 as well.

ATR

[Brido]

I have been reading around the forums regarding when you convert to DV from HDV. It seems to me that opinions are divided on in-cam conversion or at output.

Most contributers agree that shooting HDV and converting to DV gives a better picture than straight DV. I am happy to agree with them on that but I only have 32 inch LCD but i think that is big enough for a subjective judgment. Certainly when i play my HDV tape via HDMI to the LCD the results are brilliant.

When i first used PE it was version 3 and at that time I burnt to DVD folder and burnt the project to DVD via Ulead DMF V 6+; I remember i was very pleased with the outcome from that.

As I am dealing with almost and hour long video and had time restraints on me I did not do it this time.

When I have a shorter project I might play around with the alternatives.

Many thanks to the forum for a great welcome and your support.

I am, as I write, searching for tutorials and downloading them. There are not so many free tutorials as i had expected but I have liked what I have found.

[ATR]

Thanks for the feedback.

Continued success.

ATR

[Brido]

Was I wrong about "few" tutorials!

I went to UTube and Vimeo and I am swamped with them. Those, together with the PDF tutorials i have found and the great tutorials within the programme, will keep me out of mischief for a long time.

I use Firefox and and an add-on Called "Sothink flash downloader" You just have to be careful about naming the files it is downloading. I have just checked and it seems I have 75 video tutorials!... I think that has to be too many for comfort. Of course... none on Multi track editing, but I now have the basics of that and it wont scare me next time.

I am burning all the tutorials to disk as a tutorial disk that i can play on my laptop while watching TV (!) or traveling in the train

[ATR]

Sounds great.

In Premiere Elements there are some many ways to achieve effects and create projects. Once you are comfortable with the basics, you will finding yourself creating your own, even better, ways of doing things. Go with what works for you.

One of the pitfalls of all this is that work tends to get in the way of hobbies and hobbies tend to get in the way of work.

ATR