is it ok for me to ask this?

[vintage]

I know this is a photoshop elements forum but I was wondering what camera some of you guru's use? I have the Canon 10 D and was thinking about upgrading to the 20 D. I am a very amateur photographer. :?

[Grant]

Of course it is ok to ask these type of questions.

Cameras are often bought on desire not need.

If you are a beginning photographer I would think that the D10 is probably all you will need. My recommendation would be to save your money and then invest it on a good photography course. This will do you much better in the long run.

Grant

[vintage]

Thinks Grant I am sure my hubby would agree with you. I usually buy a lot of things out of desire not need.. LOL I wish I could find a good photography class near me to take. Also would love to learn this photoshop elements 4 really really well.... I am beginning to make sense of some of it with the help of everyone here.. :)

[Grant]

Vintage

Stick around people are more than happy to share their Photoshop Elements techniques.

Hmm ... no photo classes around. Two things come to mind. Is there a camera club in your area this is often a great place to get feed back? Next there are a number of fine books out there that should help you to stretch your photographic skills. Three that I highly recommend are all by Freeman Patterson, "Photography for the Joy of It", "Photography and the Art of Seeing", and "Photographing the World Around You" The start from basics and move to advanced concepts of photography as an art form. The great thing is they are easy to read and not very expensive. Once you have these under you belt then there is no limit to what you can do.

http://www.freemanpatterson.com/

Grant

[vintage]

Thanks again Grant. I will diffently try to locate these books and check them out. I sure can use all the help I can get... :lol:

[Wendy]

Hi Vintage ...

No problems about you asking camera questions :)

... but could you ask in one of the other subforums. We keep this section just for link (to tutorials, plug ins etc ...)

Thank you

Wendy

[Foxhound]

Vintage,

There is good news if no class can be found close to home. You won't have to go any further than your mail box.

www.nyip.com

These guys to an absolute novice (me) and turned him into a working professional in just a few years. It's fairly expensive but they do except payment plans AND you won't be disappointed. Granted they still teach film but f/8 is still f/8 no matter what capture system you use. They will teach you not just 35mm but also medium and large format film capture.

Again, exposure is exposure whether it be film or digital. The only real difference between the two is with negative film you expose for the shadows and with digital you expose for the highlights just like color reversal (slide) film. Not to mention the convenience of not having to work with film.

They also offer a digital photography course but this course DOES NOT teach photography. It teaches photoshop ONLY and of course capturing the digital image via film and flatbed scanners.

Have them send you some information and take a look. Chuck and Don do a bang up job teaching photography and I promise you won't be disappointed

[ThomasT]

Hmm I still think that a Amateur Photographer should use Film like I do now.. I have the Canon Rebel k2.. But thats just me I am planning to upgrade to the digital rebel but thats it from the untill i get 2000 dolllars then I will go by the 20d but until them its the Digital Rebel by Canon!

Thomas

[Pauline]

Grant, thanks for the links. I'm going to check them out. I was going to order "understanding exposure" by Bryan Peterson today, but I wonder if this other series would be better for me. I know there is tons of info on the net, but I really love having a good book in front of me rather than spending all my time on the computer.

[Grant]

Pauline

Freeman Patterson is a Canadian legend and a winner of the order of Canada. His books were written for film but they are applicable for digital. In fact everything that is discussed will be useful to up to the point of downloading. It is all about what happens in the camera.


His first book "Photography for the Joy of It" is mainly devoted to the tools that are needed for a competent photographer, aperture, shutter, ISO and so on.

"Photography and the Art of Seeing" Is all about the art of composition and seeing. About abstracting and selection you can read the book in a day or so but the tools that it gives will take a life time to master.

Freeman Patterson runs week long work shops that will run you about $2000 What he has done in "Photographing the World Around You" is distill this work shop into a book that sells for $30 and while you don't get the one on one training you do get all the information.

Yes I am a fan of Patterson and did attend a weekend work shop years ago but thank heavens it was not even close to $2000

and "Photographing the World Around You" :D

[GaryK]

Grant

Thanks for the info..I might have to snag the third book. 2 grand is a little out of my league.

It's really too bad they charge so much.. I understand... it's just too bad.

[Pauline]

Thanks Grant. Your advice is valued. I can't afford the classes either, but the books I can. Maybe I'll start with the first one along with the Barry Huggins book I want for photoshop lighting and then add the other two to my Christmas list. Good resources are never put to waste. I did look at one of the simplified books yesterday in the very sparce photography section of the books store and felt that it was just too simplifed with no growing room.

[vintage]

Opps! sorry Wendy, I was unsure where to ask this question. Found another forum after I posted and thought that was where I should have asked. Guess I need to learn more about surfing around within these forums. all of this is very new to me. :oops:

[Wendy]

Oh you are OK ... this is the only subforum that we keep clear :)


Wendy