Anyone done this?

[vawitt]

Wonder how this will tie in w/CS3 and PSE?

[jonknee]

Wonder how this will tie in w/CS3 and PSE?

It came out 10 minutes ago, so we're on new ground. I don't believe it ties in, but I haven't played around with it too much. It does tie in nicely with the web though (not only other sites like Facebook, but it will give you embed code and what not).

[mrod]

Wow! I log off, go put the kids to bed, come back, and look what happens...I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the heads-up, Jon!

Mike

[billz]

Thanks Jon. I signed up and posted a couple images to test it. regularman.photoshop.com (http://regularman.photoshop.com) if you're interested.

Bill

[jonknee]

Thanks Jon. I signed up and posted a couple images to test it. regularman.photoshop.com (http://regularman.photoshop.com) if you're interested.

I bet sharing these galleries is going to be popular over the next few days... They sure make it easy at least :).

[Inspeqtor]

I am confused, but then that does not take much! Is there any software to download for Photshop Express? I was not able to find any links for a download if there is. I would think there is software to be able to change the photos as shown in the home page.


Thanks :)

[Ric Cisson]

I have been hearing rumors in the past couple of days of this release. I just signed up, have not uploaded anything...yet. Looks interesting...and yet promising.

[Bayla]

Wonder how this will tie in w/CS3 and PSE?

Excuse my ignorance....but anyone done what? I don't see any link in your post.:confused::confused::confused:

Bayla

[elwoodsusanm]

I have joined but how do I post a link in the forum?:confused:

[TonyW]

This looks like fun. Not sure what I'm doing but I joined (had to move to the US to do it :)) uploaded a picture, tried the sketch effect and figured out I think how to post a link to it. Lets see if it works:

http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-assets/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b

Tony

PS That seemed to work - now I guess I should read the help stuff and watch some tutorials - and I'm supposed to be packing to leave on a trip :(

Trying for a linked thumbnail - doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that yet. Had to construct the HTML - lets' see if it works:

http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-thumbnails/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b/256.jpg (http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-assets/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b)

Tony

[msbrad]

I'm confused along with Charles.
What is this.
m

[Bayla]

I've finally realised what you're all going on about. My problem was that I just clicked on 'New Posts' and read Val's post which was headed 'Anyone Done This' but hadn't a clue what was going on - I didn't realise that a whole new section had been started - I don't usually notice where things have been posted:o

I shall take a look later on when I get a chance.

Bayla

[Matt K]

Hey everyone,
Easiest thing to do to figure out what this is, is to go check out Scott Kelby's blog. We did a video that kind of explains the whole thing. Here's the link.

http://www.scottkelby.com/

Enjoy!

[TonyW]

I'm confused along with Charles.
What is this.
m

As far as I can tell having just started playing with it is that it's a photosharing site with some on-line editing - so you can do a few of the things you can do with Photoshop Elements without having to have the software on your computer. Seems to be pretty easy to use even without reading the help files and watching Matt's tutorials.

Tony

[TonyW]

Hey everyone,
Easiest thing to do to figure out what this is, is to go check out Scott Kelby's blog. We did a video that kind of explains the whole thing. Here's the link.

http://www.scottkelby.com/

Enjoy!

Thanks Matt: That explains a lot about it. I note Scott's comment:

"it’s aimed at a totally different market (18 to 22 year-old MySpace, Facebook crowd)" so I guess I shouldn't be playing with it - left that age bracket quite a few years ago :D. But it does look like it will be fun to play with even if I am too old for that sort of thing.

Tony

[Matt K]

Well since I'm still in that age bracket Tony I'm "Amp'd" and "pump'd up" at the rad website (who am I kidding, I'm out too)...
:D
No, you're definitely correct. That is "Adobe's" target audience. Personally, I think we're going to see a lot of other age groups get in there that they don't count on. Just my take so we'll wait and see but you can't argue with it's simplicity. I'll be pointing my mom, and older brother and sister there instead of telling them to get Elements right away. I figure I'll let 'em start there and see if they decide they want more flexibility later.

Cool stuff either way.

[mrod]

It'll be interesting to watch, for sure. I spend my days with an age group that wants to be in that age bracket (12-14) and some think they are. I may test it out with a few select kids and see what they think.

Thanks for the videos, Matt. Good work, as always.

Mike

Well since I'm still in that age bracket Tony I'm "Amp'd" and "pump'd up" at the rad website (who am I kidding, I'm out too)...
:D
No, you're definitely correct. That is "Adobe's" target audience. Personally, I think we're going to see a lot of other age groups get in there that they don't count on. Just my take so we'll wait and see but you can't argue with it's simplicity. I'll be pointing my mom, and older brother and sister there instead of telling them to get Elements right away. I figure I'll let 'em start there and see if they decide they want more flexibility later.

Cool stuff either way.

[ken1]

Tried to sign up. Can't see bottom of screen to agree to terms of use. No scroll bars.

[TonyW]

Ken: They weren't anywhere close to the bottom of the screen when I signed up. You can see them here (and in the link on this page)

https://www.photoshop.com/express/pxterms.html

Tony

[ken1]

Tony,
Thanks. However, I cannot scroll to the bottom in order to sign up after providing all the required info. Perhaps I need to change screen resolution. It is set to 800x600px, providing decent size for viewing. If we are beta testers, then this my initial input. Would volunteer for PEv.7 so that this version will be less tortured.
Ken

[ken1]

Changed screen resolution and finally saw entire screen. Registration went through ok. Have changed resolution back to 800x600px and can navigate the screens based on initial quick and dirty trial. Will spend more time on it later.

[lsweeney]

It'll be interesting to watch, for sure. I spend my days with an age group that wants to be in that age bracket (12-14) and some think they are. I may test it out with a few select kids and see what they think.

Thanks for the videos, Matt. Good work, as always.

Mike


Mike, from your vantage point in education, do you think a tool like this new launch will propel students toward learning some version of the Photoshop software? Or will they be content with what Express can do and not invest the time (or cost) into Elements or CS3?

[vawitt]

Ha! Good one!

Thanks Jon. I signed up and posted a couple images to test it. regularman.photoshop.com (http://regularman.photoshop.com) if you're interested.

Bill

[vawitt]

I spend my days with kids that ARE in that age group and it's hard enough keeping them out of MySpace during class (Excel and Access anyone??) so I might hold off on clueing them into this place until, oh, say, the last day of class...

OTOH, it could make for an interesting kind of class activity...Web 2.0 rides again!!

~Val in SNOWY :mad::mad: IL

It'll be interesting to watch, for sure. I spend my days with an age group that wants to be in that age bracket (12-14) and some think they are. I may test it out with a few select kids and see what they think.

Thanks for the videos, Matt. Good work, as always.

Mike

[mrod]

High school, Val? Yeah...I can imagine. I fight the same battles with the middle school kiddos, but it's not quite as bad because they're "not old enough for My Space pages." And boy does that stop 'em...:rolleyes:

Lorri, to answer your question, I'm not sure. In some cases, maybe. In others, probably not, unless they're exposed to PS/PSE (through school, at home, etc.). Cost will be an issue where I teach. Lots of our kids do not have the resources to buy things like this. Also, our district has a site license for Paint Shop Pro, so that is primarily the program that gets used, just because it's installed on every machine in the district.

It also probably depends on how far they want to go with this stuff. For some, the main goal will be getting the picture online somewhere. For others, the goal will be more to learn and improve and advance the skills.

Mike

[taz]

interesting term they have in their terms and conditions. Be careful what you do with your photos when using this service! From their General Terms, to which you must agree . . .8. Use of Your Content.



Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

[mrod]

Well, that's a bit disturbing...missed that clause. Thanks for pointing it out.

interesting term they have in their terms and conditions. Be careful what you do with your photos when using this service! From their General Terms, to which you must agree . . .8. Use of Your Content.



Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

[jonknee]

interesting term they have in their terms and conditions. Be careful what you do with your photos when using this service! From their General Terms, to which you must agree . . .8. Use of Your Content.


Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

Unfortunately that's pretty common. It's similar to what Flickr has in place for example. Any MySpace. And probably almost every other service. Lawyers, what can you do?

[mrod]

And, here's a portion of SmugMug's terms. Sounds good to start with, but has some similar sounding verbage...

license granted by users

SmugMug does not claim ownership in the photographs, videos or other media created or uploaded by Subscribers ("Media"). SmugMug will not resell Media to third parties. Unless we indicate otherwise, if you upload Content, including any Media, to the SmugMug site, you grant SmugMug a nonexclusive, royalty-free right to publish, distribute and display the Content as we deem appropriate in providing the Services authorized or requested by you, including the right to use the name that is submitted in connection with such Content. You further understand and agree that, in order to help ensure smooth operation of our system, we may keep backup copies of Content indefinitely. (emphasis mine)

You represent and warrant that you own or otherwise control all of the rights to the Content (including without limitation Media) that you post; that use of the Content you supply does not violate these Terms of Use and will not cause injury to any person or entity; and that you will indemnify SmugMug for all claims resulting from Content you supply. SmugMug has the right but not the obligation to monitor and edit or remove any activity or Content. You understand and agree that SmugMug takes no responsibility and assumes no liability for any Content posted by you or any third party."

[CalamityJanet]

I know that Smugmug has the option to NOT have your content be "publicly accessable" so that it doesn't get included in google searches, etc. Does Express have this option? Their terms indicate that they are referring to content that you "make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the services".

[Wendy]

This is really interesting !!! :)

Wendy

[jonknee]

I know that Smugmug has the option to NOT have your content be "publicly accessable" so that it doesn't get included in google searches, etc. Does Express have this option? Their terms indicate that they are referring to content that you "make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the services".

All images are private by default. You have to add them to an album first. After you create an album you then have to click share and then there is a setting to share with only your friends or make it public. You have to jump through several hoops before stuff is public.

[msbrad]

This has been interesting and like Bayla, I arrived onto this thread to be totally confused.
I'm not into myspace, yourface (facebook or something) and I teach elementary school. I think I will keep my distance at least for now.
m

[mrod]

There's an interesting little update on the whole Terms of Use issue in RC's blog on layersmagazine.com (http://www.layersmagazine.com/) this morning. Read the part titled This Just In.

Perhaps some of the concern will be addressed? We'll have to wait and see what they come up with...

Mike

[dj_paige]

This looks like fun. Not sure what I'm doing but I joined (had to move to the US to do it :)) uploaded a picture, tried the sketch effect and figured out I think how to post a link to it. Lets see if it works:

http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-assets/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b

Tony

PS That seemed to work - now I guess I should read the help stuff and watch some tutorials - and I'm supposed to be packing to leave on a trip :(

Trying for a linked thumbnail - doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that yet. Had to construct the HTML - lets' see if it works:

http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-thumbnails/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b/256.jpg (http://api.photoshop.com/home_129779d5103149358a9ee4cacee6d56c/adobe-px-assets/ba1cc3b6a520432f9a8a9cd0fa3c347b)

Tony

Compared to Flickr, I don't see a lot of usability here in PSExpress. Sure, the interface in PSEXpress is glitzy, but the functionality is limited (I didn't try the online editor in PSExpress).

Flickr gives you the hyperlink for the original or for the thumbnail, you don't have to go figure it out as Tony had to do.

Flickr lets you see photos individually, if you want, or as a slideshow; as opposed to PSExpress, where you apparently can only view photos in a slideshow and then pause it. You can designate individual photos as a favorite in Flickr; PSExpress seems to only allow entire galleries or albums to be favorites.

Flickr has all sorts of networking built in; you can join groups and post your photos to those groups as well as to your own page, you can comment on individual photos or galleries, you can set up contacts in Flickr which enables you to easily monitor their new photos, and on and on. All of this is missing from PSExpress right now.

About the only advantage I see to PSExpress is that you can make really slick slideshows. Glitz over substance.

[jonknee]

(I didn't try the online editor in PSExpress)...


About the only advantage I see to PSExpress is that you can make really slick slideshows. Glitz over substance.

You're missing about 75% of the product. There are tons of places to store your photos online, that part isn't hard. This is trying to streamline the functionality of tweaking / sharing. You're only seeing the last part, which is also the part that's most common.

It's not a direct competitor to Flickr. The web sharing functionality is more like .Mac than Flickr. But part of the product is in the same vertical.

Anyway, it may or may not be useful to you, but you should really check it out (which means trying out its main feature/purpose) before casting judgement.

[lucian]

Apparantly some at Adobe don't agree/didn't know just what their EULA said. Maybe the EULA will change in the near future. There are also some of the coffee table book makers who have a similar EULA. One I've been told even takes your copyright.

I would be very careful to read the EULA. Sure don't want pictures of my dogs advertising cat food or something worse.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080329-adobe-joins-list-of-companies-not-reading-own-eulas.html