Msg: Eror Compiling Movie. Out of memory.

[slabinski]

Why am I getting this and how do I get past it?

I made 3 slide shows 2M each with music. I imported them into PE4
I would like to make them into a DVD with a menu so you can play it all at once or each one in a section.

I have not added edit points yet only the slide shows.

This is my second slide show. The 1st was a single show imported with music and burned as a DVD. It worked great. :confused:

[ATR]

We are going to need far more details. But, let us start with this:

You say that you have three slideshows that you want to get into Premiere Elements 4, all in the same project. Am I to assume that these three slideshows were created in Photoshop Elements 6? If so, how did you output them to Premiere Elements 4..with the Send to Premiere Elements command (as is, non wmv route) or as wmv with NTSC DV profile?

I will look for more detail on your import process as soon as I get a handle on your workflow.

Of prime importance in view of the out of memory message,
1. How many minutes or hours is each slideshow? What exactly is in the slideshow, video format/audio format?? What does the 2 M for each slideshow represent...file size in megabytes for a possible saved wmv version of a slideshow??
2. What is your operating system, how much RAM as well as free hard drive space do you have? Do you defragment your computer and shutoff unnecessary programs running in the background, optimize your computer, etc., etc.

I will be waiting for your reply.

ATR

[slabinski]

Ok lets see if I can get all this down.......

The slide shows are created in Photoshop 6
They are all stills. Some with pan and zoom effect. And all with the fade effect.

Slide one is 2:08 min long. It has 33 slides. I wanted to add audio at this point. I have tried with and without audio with the same message.

Slide two is 2:29 min long and has 44 slides.

Slide three is 2:51 min long and has 54 slides

On “slide show output” I used “send to premiere elements” with file settings as:
Movie file (.wmv)
slide size DVD – NTSC (720X480)

Windows XP Professional with SP2 (and all current updates), 2.8 GHz CPU with 3 GB RAM, 228 GB HD with 137 GB free, which has 3% fragmented files. Yes, the computer is defragmented monthly and all programs are shutdown prior to running Elements.

I am new to learning the program.... but did make one DVD the same way. it was only one import and it came out great.... so I don't understand the msg. I am getting...

Thanks

[ATR]

Shan,

This is what I would like to you try.

Create your slideshow 1 in Photoshop Elements 6. When you click the Output icon at the top of the interface, select "Send to Premiere Elements" (the option at the bottom of the list, not Save to File (Movie, wmv)). You could not have used the "Send to Premiere Elements" option if you obtained a wmv where you set the profile. The latter is only found in Save As File (Movie wmv).

For now let us assume that you are not going to do any further edits on the Photoshop Elements slideshow in Premiere Elements. In the Timeline view, highlight your slideshow on the Timeline, go to the File Menu and select Export/Movie. You are going to convert your slideshow into a DV AVI format. When you click OK in the dialog, you will find a copy of the DV AVI version in the media of Premiere Elements as well as in the saved location that you designed in the Export dialog.

You are going to do the same for slideshow 2, 3, or however many you have. When you have the DV AVIs all in their saved location, open a new project in Premiere Elements and bring these DV AVIs from their saved location into the Timeline via Get Media.

The wmv route is not a preferred route if you have the combo perk of Photoshop Elements 6/Premiere Elements 4 or Photoshop Elements 5/Premiere Elements 3 where you can bring the slideshow in as is rather than as a wmv.

The technique just described in favored for working on long projects in smaller pieces.

Also, check out the pixel dimensions of your stills. You do not want to stress out the programs with stills whose pixel dimensions exceed 1000 x 750 pixels. You can check out the pixel dimensions in the Photoshop Elements Editor, Image Menu/Resize/Image Size. Right click those three wmv files that you currently have. Select Properties. How many MB is each file?

Here are some classic FAQs to take a look at:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bbe608f

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bb8822c

Let see how this goes. We can fine tune later.

ATR

[ATR]

Add on...

I do not know if I missed it, but just when are you getting the message about the compiling error and memory? What are you doing when you see it?

ATR

[slabinski]

I attempted this with the 1st slide show. It started and after about 20 mins gave me the same message. When I attempted it again it gave the message right away.

When the program is rendering I don’t touch it. I just let it sit and do its thing. :(

[ATR]

Do not give up.

Let us back up a little. You attempted this....20 minutes....

Stop me when I need to be corrected on a detail:
1. You create slideshow 1 in Photoshop Elements 6. When it comes time to Output, you select Send to Premiere Elements which has been set up ahead time for NTSC DV Standard preset.
2. With your slideshow on the Timeline, you click on the Timeline content to highlight it, and then go File Menu/Export/Movie, leaving the default settings for DV AVI. You Save to a hard drive location, like My Videos.
3. You find a copy of the DV AVI version saved to the hard drive location of your choice as well as in the media of Premiere Elements 4.

Where does this 20 minute business come into the scenario? "It started and after 20 minutes...." It started doing what and what was it doing for those 20 minutes? Where were you in the project? Are you saying that you started creating the DV AVI, never got the DV AVI created, and it took the program 20 minutes to tell you or something else?

Just a reminder that the Rendering which I strongly recommend will not impact the final result. Rendering is just making it possible for you to get the best possible Preview.

You did not mention what the size of the photos are. Also, when you are rendering temporary files (scratch files) are generated. Where do you have them directed...same as project or to an external hard drive? You can check that out by going Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks and observing the location designated.

Also, please go back and re-read the questions that I posed in previous responses. Please answer any that you have not...like size of each image, size of slideshow file in wmv version. You say you defragment monthly. When was the last time you did it? Defragment before you do anything else.

I need to focus in on what you are doing so your replies will be very helpful.

As I say, do not give up. The pieces will come together yet.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

If you have not done it yet you need to resize your images to approx 1000 x 750, they are probably much larger than that. Premiere is using the original images to create the movie/slideshow and they are just too big.

You may also want to make sure you have plenty of hard disk space on your primary, and any other drives, for temp files and that the hard drives have been defragmented on a regular basis. There should be a minimum of 40Gb of defragmented space on each of the drives you are using.

[ATR]

Chuck Engels restatement of questions/content already raised in this thread only emphasize their importance in trying to help you resolve your issues.

Please review all the suggestions and, if not clear on any of the details, please be sure to ask.

Again, I will be watching for your progress.

ATR

[slabinski]

My 1st attempt did not work with slide one. So I shut down and tried it again the next day before work. It started rendering on its own so I left it. I don’t know how long it took but 10 hours later when I came home it was done.

I gave the original edits to my Sgt on CD and when I did the edits in Photoshop I sized them all at 12” I am going thru them now to check for size. Any that need to be adjusted I have changed to 1000X750 pixels.
They are also around 180KB - 379KB

On my 1st try I was never able to save the file as AVI. It starts a rendering process and would hang up about 20 minutes into it. When rendering I leave the computer alone and let it do its thing.

“Are you saying that you started creating the DV AVI, never got the DV AVI created, and it took the program 20 minutes to tell you or something else?” YES

“Just a reminder that the Rendering which I strongly recommend will not
impact the final result. Rendering is just making it possible for you
to get the best possible Preview.” I thought you needed to render before saving the final cut?

You did not mention what the size of the photos are.

“ Also, when you are rendering temporary files (scratch files) are generated. Where do you have them directed...same as project or to an external hard drive?” THEY GO INTO THE SAME FILE A DEFAULT FILE CREATED BY THE PROGRAM.

The computer is defragmented monthly however when the issue occurred I again did a defrag as a precaution.

I hope I did not miss anything

[slabinski]

The message appears when rendering. I have all possible background programs shut off and leave the program alone. No screen savers are on.

[ATR]

Shan

Thanks for the additional information. I was not clear by what you meant by originally sizing your photos to 12 ". With photos in Photoshop Elements/Premiere Elements, you need to think in terms of pixels dimensions.

From what you wrote you are now resizing your images so that the pixels dimensions for each photo do not exceed 1000 x 750 pixels. That is good. But, have you tried using these resized images in slideshow 1 with any better results? If my memory is correct, there are about 50 photos in slideshow 1??

I think that there may be some confusion about my comments on rendering. When you have your video on the Timeline and you are editing, usually with each edit, the green line over the Timeline will turn red. That means, to get a decent preview of what is happening, you need to render in the Edit Mode by pressing the Enter Key of the Main Keyboard. This is the rendering that impacts your previews but not the final product. The rendering of your Timeline content to DV AVI does not fall into that category. It is a required step to get to the DV AVI version of your Timeline content.

Are you the only one that has control over the computer that you are using? If not, just to be safe, go back to "My Computer" properties to verify that you have the RAM and free hard drive space that you think you have.

Let us know if resizing helped.

ATR

[slabinski]

Well I have been busy…. I rechecked all photos and resized any that needed a fix. I remade all the slide shows and now have them saved as AVI. So far no “error msg.”
I also shortened one and created a total of 4 slide shows.

In PE6

Slide 1 time 2:07 with 33 slides
Slide 2 time 3:08 with 63 slides
Slide 3 time 3:12 with 74 slides
Slide 4 time 2:48 with 56 slides

I took out some of the pan and zoom all effects are FADE

In PE4

Slide 1 AVI – 461 MB
Slide 2 AVI – 680 MB
Slide 3 AVI – 696 MB
Slide 4 AVI – 608 MB


Slide 1 PREL – 1.33 MB
Slide 2 PREL – 2.28 MB
Slide 3 PREL – 2.62 MB
Slide 4 PREL – 2.04 MB

(I did play the AVI in media player. I don’t know if it is media player or a monitor effect but photos seemed washed out/over exposed. They do not look over exposed in other programs… any idea on this? )

I think the resize did help.

I was a little confused on the why, when I went to save as AVI, it would go into the rendering process. I knew to render by hitting the enter key but thought it was something that had to be done for the overall quality of the finished product. (Rendering by the timeline enter key method) Thanks for clearing that up.

My 1st short attempt at this I did not save as AVI. I did the same method of creating in Photoshop and sending to PE then saved as DVD.

What is the difference by saving as AVI?

My next feat is to put them together as one unit with menu markers…..

[ATR]

Shan

Sounds like everything is coming together. I am looking forward to the results from your combining of the DV AVI into one project, followed by generation of the DVD-VIDEO for the project.

RE: these file formats...there are many types of "AVI", it could be DV AVI, AVI Motion JPEG, AVI MPEG4, etc. The AVI in the name indicates what they call "the wrapper", whereas DV, Motion JPEG, MPEG4 would be the compressor type. Premiere Elements handles DV AVI best, often called is native format.

When you first started, if you took slideshow 1 and "saved to DVD", did you mean that you created a DVD-VIDEO version of the slideshow? If so, consider that DVD-VIDEO is a format with its own specific structure which includes OpenDVD and VIDEO_TS folders. To use the material on the DVD-VIDEO, you would rip the VOBs files in the VIDEO_TS folder using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader....more information on that later, if necessary.

For DVD-VIDEO quality, let the quality of your end product as viewed on the TV be your guide. If there is a quality problem in the Timeline content brightness, saturation, you could always explore Image Control in Properties and make adjusts.

But, you seem to be moving along nicely, so just think about the above as you move forward.

Good job.

ATR

[slabinski]

Now that I have made a slide show in PE6 and imported to PE4… I could have done the whole thing in PE4?

[ATR]

Yes.

Give it a try.

You will need to do pans & zooms with keyframing or use the Presets for the pans or zooms. Check out Music Beats feature and use of unnumbered markers in dealing with music beat in sync with images.

Besides dragging your files from the Media to the Timeline, give the create slideshow option a try when you have your media in the media area.

Remember, Premiere Elements claim to fame is video editing in contrast to Photoshop Elements and its photo editing.

Have you seen this Premiere Elements article by SG:
http://muvipix.com/phpBB3/articles/?p=1#more-1

And, a whole lot of other interesting avenues to follow.

That is just a quick add on to "Yes". Any further specific questions, please ask.

ATR