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visiter555
March 6th, 2008, 09:42 PM
A few years ago I managed to copy all my old 8MM camcorder tapes onto DVD-Rs using composite cables to a Panasonic DVD Recorder.
Now I am trying to import those home movies from the DVD-R disks into Premier Elements 4.0.
The computer is a P4 3.0 GHtz, 500 GB SATA HD, 4 GB ram, LG super multi DVD drive, with an ATI Radeon X300 video board. Windows XP Pro SP2.
I find that the system locks up when importing and 50% of the time I get a bad file error (though the DVD plays fin in the same drive/computer. Importing onto the HD seems to take an hour per 90 minutes of video/audio.
Any suggestions to get this working faster?
I no longer have nor can I borrow a Sony (or other make) 8MM camcorder, so that is out!
ATR
March 6th, 2008, 11:22 PM
visitor555
Before I comment further, how are you ripping the VOBs from the DVD-VIDEOs that you created? Are you using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader? If not, please explain your procedure.
ATR
visiter555
March 7th, 2008, 11:25 PM
They were played on the 8mm Sony camcorder and recorded on a Panasonic stand alone DVD recorder.
So they are .VOB files with the .IFO menu.
The DVD-R that was created a few years ago for each 8MM tape is placed into the Dell and I have Premier Elements 4.0.
I have tried to import using the PE Media Downloader and it can take an hour or two plus for 75 minutes of video to be imported and even then errors or lockups generally occur. Leaving the system alone and coming back in three/four hours will show say three of the four clips imported. The import ALWAYS misses at least one of the clips off of the DVD.
Chuck Engels
March 10th, 2008, 11:58 AM
Have the DVDs been Finalized?
ATR
March 10th, 2008, 03:18 PM
visiter555
I think it highly unlikely that your DVD-VIDEO recordings are not finalized since your problem is a slow download rather than NO download using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. It has been my experience that DVD-VIDEO format recorded to a DVD disc but not finalized will not work AT ALL using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. But, I stand to be corrected if you have done otherwise.
I have thought about your situation, reviewed your details, and have come up with more questions.
1. Exactly what is the total run time of your recordings on this DVD-VIDEO disc, presumed to be finalized...15 minutes, 30 minutes, 2 hours???
2. After you place the DVD disc in the DVD drive tray, are in Premiere Elements invoking the Media Downloader, are in the Media Downloader dialog,
After selecting the appropriate drive, are you leaving everything checked or just selecting one or two VTS_xx_x.VOB files at a given time? If otherwise, please indicate.
I will await your reply and respond accordingly, but much faster than previously. I apologize for the delayed response, but your follow up post escaped me. I will do better next time.
ATR
Chuck Engels
March 10th, 2008, 05:43 PM
visiter555
I think it highly unlikely that your DVD-VIDEO recordings are not finalized since your problem is a slow download rather than NO download using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. It has been my experience that DVD-VIDEO format recorded to a DVD disc but not finalized will not work AT ALL using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. But, I stand to be corrected if you have done otherwise.
Ok, nevermind.
visiter555
March 10th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Have the DVDs been Finalized?
Yes they are all finalized.
visiter555
March 10th, 2008, 06:11 PM
visiter555
I think it highly unlikely that your DVD-VIDEO recordings are not finalized since your problem is a slow download rather than NO download using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. It has been my experience that DVD-VIDEO format recorded to a DVD disc but not finalized will not work AT ALL using the Premiere Elements Media Downloader. But, I stand to be corrected if you have done otherwise.
I have thought about your situation, reviewed your details, and have come up with more questions.
1. Exactly what is the total run time of your recordings on this DVD-VIDEO disc, presumed to be finalized...15 minutes, 30 minutes, 2 hours???
2. After you place the DVD disc in the DVD drive tray, are in Premiere Elements invoking the Media Downloader, are in the Media Downloader dialog,
After selecting the appropriate drive, are you leaving everything checked or just selecting one or two VTS_xx_x.VOB files at a given time? If otherwise, please indicate.
I will await your reply and respond accordingly, but much faster than previously. I apologize for the delayed response, but your follow up post escaped me. I will do better next time.
ATR
Run time is between 60 and 80 minutes per disk.
I select all the files. I select one file. I select one file and the index. Results are 100% the same.
ATR
March 10th, 2008, 06:57 PM
How about this for diagnostic purposes, maybe with more far reaching application later?
DVD-VIDEO in DVD Drive Tray.
In My Computer, navigate to the drive and hit Explore. Make a copy of the VIDEO_TS Folder and paste to Desktop.
The goal is to open Premiere Elements 4 and use Get Media/Files and Folders to bring the file(s) named VTS_01_1.VOB and/or with appropriate numbering in name. Check ahead of time to make sure these are the ones with your video content.
In Get Media/Files and Folders, navigate to the those files and bring just them into the Media Panel.
Let me know the outcome. I will be back at the computer in a few hours.
ATR
ATR
March 10th, 2008, 10:27 PM
This is just another thought to use when necessary.
Have you considered converting your VOBs to DV AVI with a free software named MPEGStreamclip
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc4800e
and then using the DV AVI version in Premiere Elements 4?
ATR
visiter555
March 12th, 2008, 03:41 PM
I have downloaded and installed, but have some issues with the install. I shall keep you posted as I uninstall and clean the registry and try re-installing StreamClip.
Wilson
visiter555
March 18th, 2008, 08:55 AM
I have installed MPEGStreamclip with the alternative (correct older version) Quicktime. What are the export settings? I have tried a few different combos and saving as .avi but non of these are correct (or so it appears to me) when opening the new .AVI in Premier Elements.
Suggestions?
ATR
March 18th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Take a look at this thread on PE4/VOBs from CE's forum site, and see if there is anything that helps your situation:
http://muvipix.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2462&start=15
Note that PE4 can handle DV as well as DV AVI. Keep in mind that DV is the compressor and AVI is a wrapper.
I have not used MpegStreamClip so I am going on what I have heard. I will look into this further if need be.
Let me know if this helped.
ATR
ATR
March 18th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Did you check out the how to details in this link that I cited earlier?
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc4800e
ATR
visiter555
April 14th, 2008, 08:46 AM
I took an unscheduled trip to Kenya on the 19th of March and got back on April 12. Will try the recommendations this week and THANK YOU for all the assistance!
Of course now I have tons of pics and video to play with on my mini-DVI cam, but this one has Firewire!!! lol
ATR
April 14th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Welcome back and good luck.
ATR
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