View Full Version : Nikon/Canon/Olympus? Help?
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 04:58 AM
I am aspiring to take photographs like you guys (those with photos in the gallery). I know it is more the photographer than the camera, but I am going to buy a new camera. I want an SLR. (Although those photos with the Kodal Z740 look great!)
I have looked, read many reviews, and held each in my hand. I am choosing between Nikon D50, Canon Rebel, and Olympus E-500 (due on the market anyday). From what I have learned: Nikon makes the best lenses; Canon the best sensors, and Olympus has lens dust removal and 4/3 lens.
Do you guys have general advice here? I have been on camera forums, but they have the discussions separated by camera brand -- so it is hard to post a general question like this. (i.e., If I post in the Olympus forum, everyone bashes Canon and Nikon, etc...) Thanks! Any thoughts much appreciated!
Wendy
October 6th, 2005, 06:00 AM
Hi Marie ...
When I bought my camera I compared all the specifications and decided that there really wasn't too much difference between them so decide to go down to a camera shop and take a look at them. I held each camera and took a few shots with them ... and really made up my mind on which one "felt" the best in my hand.
I chose the Canon as I just like the feel of it ... it was comfortable to hold and use :)
Wendy
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 06:19 AM
I chose the Kodak z740 because it has the capabilities of manual settings, and extra lenses, but was more within my price range. The Canon and Nikon were quite a bit more. Also the Kodak is known for it's ease of use, so hopefully I won't be to overwhelmed. So far I love it. My only complaint would be it's a little slow processing the pictures.
When I was looking to purchase, it was very hard because of course everyone has their personal favourites, but I have to agree with Wendy about trying it out and getting the feel for it. I held the z700 and it didn't have the same solid feel as the z740. I tried a few other brands (within my price range) and just didn't like the look or feel for them as much.
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 06:20 AM
Wendy:
Do you have the Rebel?
I have held each one and taken shots, looked through the various lenses etc... It seems a toss up, although the Olympus offers a "four-thirds" lens, which will be nice for my video-editing software (4:3 aspect ratio fills the TV screen).
But, of course, Canon and Nikon are both higher rated cameras, with better overall ratings on all the forums. (Nikon D50 is also $200 less than the Rebel, making it a nice option.)
Thanks for the advice.
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Pauline:
When you say "slow processing the pictures," do you mean it is slow on shutter speed? Or slow between shots? I like your photos with it!
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Marie the shutter speed is very fast. (the reviews were good on that) It's after you take the picture, it takes a few seconds to record it, so you have to wait to take your next shot. (or use the burst mode)
The picture quality is excellent. I took a photo of a big spider web and printed it 8.5 x 11. I couldn't believe the detail and my kids didn't think it was a photo. They thought I drew the web in photoshop.
Most of the pictures in my gallery are from my Canon S100 (2 mp) camera. The only ones in there with the new camera are the spider web and the one of my dog in the water (now that one impressed me as I was on the shore and he was splashing out in the water, and you can see the water drops. I never could have done that shot with the canon (only 2 X zoom and not fast enough)
Wendy
October 6th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Marie ...
I have the Canon 300D ... its the Rebel but the older version.
I still prefer it to the Rebel XT as I think it feels nicer in your hand ... but then again maybe I am simply used to it by now :)
Wendy
bwolford
October 6th, 2005, 08:54 AM
I have the Canon Digital Rebel (US version of Wendy's 300D). I did the same. I gave Canon the nod over the Nikon based on lens quality (not sure I agree Nikon has better lenses, oops opinion snuck in) and taking a hard look at what the pros use. Based on my use I compared what I saw with what pros were using in my preferred picture taking space (sports and event photography). The vast majority were using Canon products. Granted, not a Digital Rebel, but still canon cameras and lenses. I considered Nikon and Canon virtually equal and my informal survey made me lean Canon's way.
Personally, I think it's hard to fail either way. If you have a future with photography and want to grow your camera with your skill, stick with Canon or Nikon because you can reuse all non-digital specific lenses with any camera body in the family. In other words, I've purchased over $2000 in lenses for my Canon and if I sell the Rebel and buy a 5D or 20D, I can reuse every lens I have today without having to re-invest. Same applies with Nikon. I don't think Kodak is committed to the prosumer and low end pro photographer space. IMHO.
Brice
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 09:03 AM
If I were to really, really get into photography rather than just a fun hobby, my decisions would probably have been based on exactly the things that Brice had said, but because (at this point in my life), I'm not interested in extra lenses (this camera does have the capability of a couple add ons), I am happy with what I have. I really think it depends on how much you are into it and what your purpose it. I might never buy the extra lenses, or in 6 months I might decide I want them.
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 10:32 AM
Not trying to sell you on the Kodak Marie, but I just put 3 photos up that I took today. The second one is of a church in the distance. The third shot shows what 10 X zoom makes it look like. (no tripod), and the 4th is a lovely rose. Oh the first picture is also taken with this camera.
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 12:57 PM
Wow. I had not even considered a Kodak. I am going to let a friend take a peek at these too. Thanks so much Pauline!
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 01:26 PM
my pleasure. :lol:
bwolford
October 6th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Marie, I will tell you that whatever you buy today, you'll probably want to replace in 2 years (if not sooner). If you aren't sure how serious you are going to be in the long run, I would buy a good quality point and shoot with a 5-6MP range and quality lens and zoom. Error on the side of a real zoom and not a digital zoom (digital zoom lowers picture quality significantly).
If I keep taking pictures at the current rate, I'll wear my camera's shutter out in 18 months, litterally exceeding the rated life on the shutter. If I had known that when I bought it, I might not have purchased this one and WAITED until I could afford what I really needed...
Brice
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 02:10 PM
One of the reasons that I picked the Kodak was that it was a good point and shot but also has the ability to chose manual settings, and the cost wasn't through the roof. It's kind of an 'in between' camera and is turning out to be just the right fit for me.
Marie, go to www.dpreview.com There are all kinds of reviews on there. Of course you can drive yourself crazy with it since weekly there are new cameras coming out and with Christmas around the corner there will, no doubt, be a pile more hitting the stores.
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Pauline:
Thanks for the dpreview tip. I have that on my "favorites" and I visit it frequently. I find it highly technical and difficult to get a practical sense of how the camera will handle. I try the forums and those are also the super-pros fighting over ISO and aperture settings. I am still "in the hunt" for the perfect camera site to help with this difficult decision. Thanks for your help though.
Pauline
October 6th, 2005, 03:36 PM
I know what you're saying. It can drive you crazy. You might also like to go to www.eopinions.com. I didn't find anything much on there for the Kodak though. Nikon and Canon seem to be the biggest names.
I think there is also stevesdigicams.com I looked through some digital camera magazines too, but again, there are really so many different levels, and I just wanted something mid range that I could grow into.
CarolLHB
October 6th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Hi Pauline,
I love zdnet.com for reviews...
:)
jwhitten
October 6th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Marie,
Everyone has given you some great advice. Not a lot of the bigotry toward certain brands you might here on other forums :) . I own a Nikon D70 and I really love my camera. Before this it was a Nikon FE2. All of the lenses I had work on the D70 and that is a BIG deal to me.
The biggest drawback is the low pass sensor. It constantly gets dust on it and it is not easy to clean. Other DSLRs have this same problem, so you need to be warned about that. The D70 can take a lot of pictures before the Lithium Ion battery runs out on you too. I can usually take about 800 pics before the battery starts showing signs of drain.
I think your best bet is to look at the accessories available for all of the cameras. Be sure you can find what you want. In lab tests, Nikon lenses seem to be a bit better, but I doubt that too many people could see the difference with their eyes.
Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Kodak all make some really good cameras. Just see which one feels best to you. Kind of like buying a new car...how does it feel when you take hold of the wheel.
jwhitten's gallery (http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/gallery/viewgallery.php?user=193)
Joe
tfry
October 6th, 2005, 04:21 PM
I'm getting ready to buy a Nikon D50.
I looked at the Rebel, but to me the Nikon just feels more solid.
I also read the reviews at dpreview and liked what I saw about the Nikon
better, not to mention the office is mostly a *Nikon Office* so if I get stuck
(which I'm sure I will) there will be plenty of backup for me :)
Wendy
October 6th, 2005, 05:44 PM
Tami ...
I don't like the feel of the Rebel XT ... I think the Rebel feal so much nicer. Mind you it is a fair but heavier ... but I think that I am just used to it :)
Wendy
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 05:46 PM
Tami:
I feel the same way about the Nikon D50. I am actually quite close to buying it.
However, Joe's comments about dust on the sensor make me think I should go with the Olympus E-Volt, which has the automatic dust removal system (and it works according to people in the know). I am reading great things about the "soon-to-be on the market" E-500.
Have you looked at that one?
tfry
October 6th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Marie,
No, I had gotten down to the Rebel or the D50 after the Fuji finally fell off the list, I said I wasn't going to look at anything else, or I would be shopping forever....
How soon is it supposed to come out? :roll:
MarieBoyer
October 6th, 2005, 06:04 PM
It is due out any day, perhaps mid-October at latest. You can pre-order now at several stores. I am going to wait until dpreview gives it the thumbs up. Apparently it will come with an excellent two lens kit (as in the E-300 right now).
Great things about Olympus are anti-dust and fantastic color quality (very subjective -- but I loved my Olympus 35 mm for that reason, and people say the E-Volt has same great color quality). The negative is Oly has smaller sensor. But Oly experts say more noise in low light, but not enough to bother the non-professional (like me).
But then again, there is the Nikon D50. You are absolutely right. I will be at this forever.
tfry
October 6th, 2005, 06:15 PM
:D :D :D :D
The exact reason why I stopped shopping around :wink:
RonH
October 6th, 2005, 06:48 PM
The new 5D is a great compact Digi SLR. It has anti-shake in the camera so any lense will have it. It accepts older Minolta lenses. See the DPReview Forums for specific camera discussions. Outside the US I believe it is called the Dynax Maxum 5D. If you want a larger unit the 7D has great rebates going right now.
willpresley
October 6th, 2005, 07:02 PM
I've been eyeing the 7D since it was announced -- I have lenses that will work with it so it would be a good choice in my case.
Grant
October 6th, 2005, 07:16 PM
If I post in the Olympus forum, everyone bashes Canon and Nikon, etc...
Bla bla bla ... My camera can beat up your camera ... bla bla bla.
The truth is all cameras with in a certain price range are very competitive, although some camera manufacturers are better at advertising than others. :D
Unless you have a passion for one brand over another, or a particular need for some specific feature here is what you should do. Set a budget. Read a bit on features but nothing on which is better as this is just opinions and we all know what they say about opinions ... Once you have narrowed it down to two or three go to your local camera. Play with them, hold them feel them and go home. Repeat this a few times until you have the camera that feels best in your hands and that is the one for you. Yup we all have different hands
Oh for what it is worth I have a D70 but that may not be the one for you.
Grant
bwolford
October 6th, 2005, 08:29 PM
And when you change the lenses, be very careful about where and how you are doing it and you will minimize dust on the censor.
Brice
MarieBoyer
October 7th, 2005, 04:38 AM
Thank you to everyone. This is a very user-friendly forum. You guys are SO great! Thanks.
pelowell
October 17th, 2005, 05:52 PM
I have the Maxxum 7D and realy like it, it is a little more expensive than most but it is well worth it since the anti-shake is applied to every lens you use,but you still have to work for good photos. :?
virgo1
October 18th, 2005, 03:40 AM
Marie,
I've had a Nikon D50 for two months and no regrets. It's my first SLR and I do enjoy having more manual control. Everyone is right, get what feel comfortable and right for you.
Eva :wink:
MarieBoyer
October 18th, 2005, 04:11 AM
Well, I agonized, looked at all of them, and read every review. I bought the Nikon D50. I love it so far. Just what I was looking for. I used it the other day in church to catch photos of my daughter in the choir. I did not miss one moment due to shutter lag. And the red eye is GONE! (With my point and shoot, every kid in the choir looked like an alien. Even those kids not looking into the camera had eyes like aliens.) Thanks all for your help!
virgo1
October 18th, 2005, 04:23 AM
Marie,
I haven't done any shots in RAW yet. I found a book, RAW 101, Better Images with Photoshop & Photoshop Elements by Jon Canfield. I'm finding it understandable and the price was right through Amazon.
Eva :wink:
MarieBoyer
October 18th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Thanks so much! I will check it out at Barnes & Noble on my lunch break tomorrow.
I have not yet taken any RAW photos yet either. Can we actually convert them using Elements (I thought we had to have full-fledged Photoshop for that)? As you can tell, I am uninformed about RAW imaging.
Truth be told, I have not used anything other than the full "auto" mode either. (And so far those are great!)
I am looking for good DSLR books in general. Much appreciated.
Wendy
October 18th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Marie ...
I don't know if you have thought about taking one of the online classes but the Digital Photography Workflow one by Scott Kelby shows you how to deal with Raw images ... its really good. Here is a link to the course overview ... scroll down and you will see each days class:
http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/training_courses/workflow.html
Wendy
Pauline
October 18th, 2005, 12:35 PM
:lol: tomorrow is my last day for the Portrait retouching class. I felt a moment of panic that I won't have Dave to start my mornings and I ended up signing up for the digital work flow class since I never did it yet. So now I'll be starting my day with Scott. :lol: I did lesson one today and of course he is just like his books. Humourous and easy to understand. :lol: :lol:
MarieBoyer
October 18th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Thanks so much! I want to take all those classes. I am worried about being able to complete them within the timeframe.
If I could sign up and go to them whenever I had the time (like I can pick up a book), I would sign up.
I love Scott Kelby's instructional DVD & book, and I also love Dave's tutorials on this site.
virgo1
October 18th, 2005, 01:31 PM
Marie,
RAW plug-ins for Elements are available from Adobe for free. And the latest version of the plug-in, DNG 3.2 has support for the D50. Happy shooting :D .
Eva :wink:
MarieBoyer
October 18th, 2005, 01:33 PM
Thanks Eva. I love your gallery! Looks like you got some fantastic shots with your Nikon point and shoot!
Pauline
October 18th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Marie, you shouldn't have a problem with the time for the classes. If you have at least 10 minutes, you can just down load everything into a folder and work on them when you want. I have a folder set up for the classes with 3 folders inside. One for the images, one for the PDF file and one for the movie. I just down load each piece and put them in their folder. Tomorrow my classes are done and I will burn them all to CD so that I can refer to it when I want. It's pretty painless. While I didn't work on today's classes yet, I did get them downloaded and ready. That way I watch the movie once and then again before starting my lesson. The classes are great and it's a good way to speed up your learning.
virgo1
October 18th, 2005, 01:49 PM
Marie,
Thank you. The 9 most current ones were shot with the D50. I've started experimenting with the different settings. I am having a good time with it.
I do want to see your photos and creations. :D
Eva :wink:
MarieBoyer
October 18th, 2005, 01:51 PM
Thanks Pauline. That is very helpful. I will look into signing up for a class this evening, and handle them just as you suggest. That will work for me.
Wendy
October 18th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Pauline ...
The Digital Workflow class is brilliant ... I'm sure that you will love it.
Let me know how you go on with it :)
Wendy
Pauline
October 18th, 2005, 06:26 PM
I wasn't sure if I should invest since I've been working on this a lot and have gained so much but felt that it was worth the money to not suffer withdrawals. :lol: Truthfully it looks excellent, except for those 3 days of RAW since I don't have that format on my camera, but perhaps I'll learn something from it anyway.
Wendy
October 18th, 2005, 07:12 PM
Pauline ...
You really will learn all sorts of new things from it ... I certainly did :)
Wendy
rrhea
October 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Hi Marie,
I have the Rebel XT and am very happy with it. It felt a bit small in my hands, but once I added the battery grip it feels just right.
I really just wanted to tell you that if you do decide on the Rebel XT, believe it or not, Dell has had some incredible deals on Canon Cameras. I paid $901. at Amazon (w/kit lens). A friend paid Dell $770 a week later for the same thing! I just purchased a Canon SD400 for another friend for $246 with $1 shipping, also from Dell!
Be patient and check www.slickdeals.net a couple of times a day. They will announce when the Rebels or other Canon cameras are on special at Dell. You will have to enter a coupon code or two, the site will explain.
Good luck, whatever your choice!
Pauline
October 18th, 2005, 07:56 PM
Thanks Wendy that's good to know. Especially in light of how much money I have spent this year on books, videos etc.!!
Speaking of cameras.....after a couple weeks with my Kodak z740, I went to use my little Canon S100, and boy it felt dinky. LOL I almost forgot what to do with it. I really love the feel of my new camera as well as the job it does, and I think the feel of it does make the difference.
Jodi Frye
October 18th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Pauline, ya ha ha ha, I know about that...I was getting my little point and shoot kodak charged up and ready to go for my son's Halloween party at school and boy it really felt like a toy. I decided I was going to bring this camera instead of the Finepix cause there will be alot going on it will be good for the quick shots. Mostly because I don't want anything happening to the Finepix ;) I'm pathetic right ? :roll: Well, I was nominated to do the pumpkin carving so that's another reason...sticky gewie fingers !
MarieBoyer
October 19th, 2005, 08:21 AM
I tried to find the PSE3 plug-in for Raw on Adobe website. Unsuccessful. Would someone give me the quick link or some other tip to locate it? Thanks!
bwolford
October 19th, 2005, 08:38 AM
Marie,
You can find the link to the Windows version of it here"
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=40&platform=Windows
MAC version here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=40&platform=Macintosh
Brice
MarieBoyer
October 19th, 2005, 08:46 AM
Brice:
Thank you very much. Dumb question but here goes.
I went to the link. I am coming back here to ask a follow-up because I want to make sure I do it correctly, as I have never downloaded a "plug-in."
I have Elements 3. Which of the choices do I download from the list of downloads under version 3? The most recent? (Called "Camera Raw 3.1 update"?)
Sorry for thickness here. Thanks so much!
bwolford
October 24th, 2005, 12:34 PM
The latest is 3.2... Just use the latest all should be fine. Sorry for the delayed response, I've been on the West coast of the US for a few days.
Brice
MarieBoyer
October 24th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Please do not apologize! Thank you VERY much!
p.s. The whole "raw" side of things is on hold until I figure out how to take basic jpegs with this new SLR. My photos with the SLR in auto mode (as well as some of the special modes) are a tad washed out. Not quite as brilliant in color, believe it or not, as my little Canon elph. I can only assume it is me, not the camera! Also, when I go to print the 4x6, the print is cropped in such a way that my photo gets cut. I am still figuring out the basics! (I have not fiddled with the aspect ratio in PSE yet.)
bwolford
October 24th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Marie,
Can you post some of your pictures and give us the metadata from the image that PSE3 will give you in the organizer?
Screenshot of Organizer (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1PdzB6kHVS7sxFSIGcXuaVnXSHAfAi)
When you select it, look in the lower right corner of the screen and select metadata tab.
Give us all the details.
Here's a picture I just took in San Francisco with my camera on AUTO mode.
Auto Mode Example (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1Xt6GbB7yqATALjVWhCICyI4CcYslS1)
And the same picture after PSE3
With the help of PSE3 (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1ppqZp5SGHzA8SXc6SWBpQ4aas8iV0)
I took this on auto mode specifically to compare it against some other RAW images I was taking that day. I wound up with better images from RAW, but raw ALWAYS requires that I adjust them when I open them. That's the drawback of RAW. When I started, each picture took 15 minutes or so to get it perfect. I can now do that in about 5-10 seconds - difference is just practice. Takes a little more work, but you can, with practice, do better than the JPEG/auto mode of your camera. You can also do better, if you don't want to use raw with Program Mode or Apeture priority or Shutter priority... It just takes practice.
I use the Auto mode of my camera in certain situations (when I can set white balance manually (I guess it's not really auto is it) or I'm shooting outside in a nice day or when I'm not in artificial lighting).
You can get good pictures with AUTO, but great pictures come with the other features of your camera. Use Auto to get familiar with the basic features of your camera, and then move on. You'll be happier in the long run.
Of course, that's just one guy's opinion.
Brice
MarieBoyer
October 29th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Brice:
I am sorry for responding so slowly.
I have no clue how to post a photoor screenshot here. (I found the directions on making a screenshot, so i can do that. Just not sure how to get it to where you can see it.) I will look for a tutorial or FAQ that will answer that for me.
If you are still "up" for helping me, I am so very game.
Thanks.
Grant
October 29th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Not sure what you want but do you mean display an image on this site like this?
http://www.cavesofice.org/~grant/Gardens/August28/Garden_A4.jpg
Grant
MarieBoyer
October 29th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Yes. And I mean "display one" and "display one like that!!!!" Wow.
Grant
October 29th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Marie
First I believe you have to have you image already on line.
Then you simply click the "Img" button followed by the address of your image and finally click the "Img" button again. Then under you message make sure the "Disable BBCode in this post" is not selected.
The code will look something like this ...
[img]
http://www.cavesofice.org/~grant/Gardens/August28/Garden_A4.jpg
[/img]
MarieBoyer
October 29th, 2005, 04:05 PM
I thought it might be complicated. I do not already have my images on line anywhere. Thanks anyway for your kindness.
Grant
October 29th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Marie
Usually your Internet Service Provider allow you to have some space on line. You can use this to create a web page or store image ... or both. In any event that should be all you need to do the trick.
Grant
Wendy
October 29th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Marie ...
You can use Pixentral to post images.
First resize your screenshot using "save for web"
Set the longest side to 750 pixels
then adjust the quality slider until the image is around 150K.
and save it with a new name.
Now go to
http://www.pixentral.com/index.php
Follow the instructions on the site and then when your image is uploaded copy the URL from just above the image and paste it into a message here :)
Wendy
Jodi Frye
October 29th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Grant, that photograph is to die for. Please save a copy to put on my grave instead of daisies....in about 100 years I mean. I tuly love that photo.
bwolford
October 30th, 2005, 05:42 PM
Pixentral is the way to go and it's free.
Just post the image and then copy the URL (contents of the Address box in IE) and copy it in your message here. We'll go from there.
Brice
MarieBoyer
October 31st, 2005, 05:03 AM
I am a subscriber here. Can I simply upload images into "my gallery"? (I have never created one.) Or is that reserved for artwork (final work) only?
Wendy
October 31st, 2005, 07:39 AM
Hi Marie ...
Yes you can indeed load images into your Gallery ..
To create your Gallery just click on Gallery at the top of the page. Then click on Create my Gallery and follow the instructions. :)
Wendy
MarieBoyer
October 31st, 2005, 10:13 AM
Wendy:
Is it okay to use the gallery in this manner? (i.e., As a place for someone to look at photos that need help and give advice?) Can I delete the photos easily from within my gallery and replace them with the improved-upon photos?
If so, then this is clearly the way for me to go. Thanks for your willing assistance. You never seem to lack for a helpful comment for a newbie.
Wendy
October 31st, 2005, 11:06 AM
Hi Marie ...
There really is nothing to stop you using your Gallery .. but I have to admit that I do use Pixentral for this type of thing.
The main reason being that it is just so quick and easy to use .. and once I have posted the link to it then I can just forget about it. I don't need to go back and remove it ...
But if you prefer to use your Gallery then there is no reason why you shouldn't :).
It is easy to delete images from your Gallery so you can change images whenever you like ... I suppose that its time I had a change around on mine but I just never seem to get round to it :) :)
Wendy
MarieBoyer
October 31st, 2005, 11:45 AM
Thank you VERY much. Not sure when or how I can adequately repay you someday? But I am really grateful you, and so many other generous experts, are willing to weigh in to help perpetual newbies like me. (I say "perpetual" because I cannot find the time I need to work in PSE to become at all proficient.)
So having folks like you makes it possible for me to keep working at it. Hanging in there, so to speak. (Just look how long it is taking me just to figure out how to benefit from Brice's generous offer to take a look at my Nikon D50 photos.)
Thanks so much.
Wendy
October 31st, 2005, 11:57 AM
Marie ...
You are most welcome ... I still remember how I felt when I first got Elements and I didn't know how to do things :)
Wendy
MarieBoyer
November 1st, 2005, 01:11 PM
Okay. Brice, Wendy, and anyone else willing to help. As I said, my photos with brand new Nikon D50 are a little washed out but still decent. I am looking for tips to get better photos out of my new Nikon D50.
I have a photo taken with my new Nikon D50. I have done nothing to it in PSE. It was a cloudy day, and I believe I either used auto or perhaps the "cloudy" mode. Here is the link:
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1mZYAQLeDvciAKNhgH3x7twpNpnZ8
Here is the metadata screenshot (I hope):
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1xltwi0T8GyNQgob8e4RdbaZpkxMuy1
Thanks for any suggestions.
I also figured out how to load some flower photos into my gallery. These were untouched by PSE. Used Macro mode.
I am open to your help and suggestions. Thanks in advance!
bwolford
November 1st, 2005, 03:53 PM
Not sure I agree that's washed out. Some of the problem could be the type of day - overcast. If you aren't sure you had the cloudy feature on, I'd assume you didn't. I didn't see anything to tell me if it was RAW or JPG, so I'm assumming JPG. I can also see that your flash didn't fire and your shutter speed was 1/40. If you got this without a tripod, you have hands much more steady than mine... Good work.
I can tell you you can adjust very easily for color using RAW. The first thing you get when you try to edit a RAW image is a pop up allowing you to doctor a few basic elements that effect the image and give it some pop.
Assuming you started with JPG, you can try playing with hue and saturation layers. I might try a levels adjustment first just to look for a quick hit, but I think hue / sat is the way to go here...
Have you ever adjusted color on a JPG within PSE?
Brice
MarieBoyer
November 2nd, 2005, 04:23 AM
Brice:
Thanks for looking at these and offering advice.
I have never used RAW. They are JPGS. I have not adjusted much except for levels in PSE. (Learned this from Kelby's book and it makes such a difference that I have used it all the time.)
I am excited that you think these are okay. I will experiment wth more settings, including RAW, and with post-processing in PSE.
Thanks to your request to post a photo here, I learned how to use pixentral and I set up a gallery here.
Thank you again!
Wendy
November 2nd, 2005, 08:51 AM
Marie,
I agree with Brice ... I just think it was that sort of day !
Now you next Challenge is to set up a hyperlink to your Gallery :)
click here for info on how to do that :) (http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5038)
Wendy
MarieBoyer
November 2nd, 2005, 09:56 AM
I DID IT! THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
AT SOME POINT YOU SHOULD START YOUR OWN WEBSITE WITH PHOTOGRAPHY TIPS! WITH A PAYPAL LINK!
BettyC
November 2nd, 2005, 10:46 AM
Pardon me--I'm FINALLY trying to puy My Gallery link in a post and tried your directions above, Wendy. I hope that I got it right!
Here goes:
BettyC
November 2nd, 2005, 10:49 AM
Thank you for more great advice, Wendy! (If I was a copycat and took someone's gallery moniker, I'll have to say that I'm sorry.) Tell me and I'll dream up something else.
Betty
Wendy
November 2nd, 2005, 10:59 AM
Oh my goodness ... you both managed it and first time :shock: !!
Very well done ... !! and a pat on the back to both of you.
Betty ... it doesn't matter if someone has used the name before ... no one would mind :)
Wendy
BettyC
November 2nd, 2005, 11:14 AM
Thanks, Wendy! But you have the copyright on "Wendy's World!"
Wendy
November 2nd, 2005, 06:49 PM
Betty ...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Wendy
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