not liking the transitions in slideshows, any thoughts?

[escheffner]

I recently upgraded from PSE4 to PSE6.

In PSE6, when I add pan/zoom effects to the photos, and apply a transition of, say, 2 seconds, it waits until the pan/zoom is completely done before fading to the next photo. (I have heard that it does the same thing in PSE5.)

In PSE4, it would transition during the last 2 seconds of the pan/zoom. This, in my view, is how it should work because it looks so much nicer and smoother. What happened in PSE5 and 6? Am I just not setting something up correctly? Or is there a way around this?

Thanks
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[Barb O]

My experience in PSE 5 was that it never did actually complete ALL of the zoom out to full photo that I had defined. So I did additional editing in Premiere Elements 3 to define the zoom that I wanted.

In my opinion it should wait for the end of the zoom that I have defined before it starts the transition. So that just says that you can't please everyone with a simple and easy to do structure like the Photoshop Elements slide show creation. More choice is needed and then more complexity is the result.

Therefore I would recommend that you consider either Pro Show Gold by Photodex (if you are primarily doing slide shows) or Premiere Elements by Adobe (if you are using significant video clips with your photos) for the additional control that you wish.

[ATR]

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I am currently working with the 30 day tryout download for Photoshop Elements 6. I am very impressed with the smoothness of the pan zoom feature in a given slide (5 sec) followed by transition (2 sec) to the next slide. I did find that the transition occurs at the end of the Pan Zoom. So far, I have not run into any completion problems for the Pan Zoom feature itself.

What I found remarkable is the smoothness that is observed even with a two Pan Zoom per slide, followed by a transition.

In your case, have you explored each of the transitions offered to see if any one of them gets you closer to the look that you are after?

I need to think about this some more, but right now I am thinking that whatever you gain in transition control in Premiere Elements will be negatively impacted by the loss of smoothness of the Pan Zoom, Transition of Photoshop Elements 6.

While you still have Photoshop Elements 6, maybe download the Premiere Elements 4 tryout and see for yourself.

ATR

[escheffner]

wow, thanks for the quick replies. i think i figured it out. i imported the slideshow to premiere elements 4 and it allowed me to change where the transition started. i don't know if anything in pse 6 allows that but either way, it looks like i want it to look now. it's a couple extra steps but i'd rather sacrifice convenience for control. thanks for all the great advice. this is a great forum!
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[Barb O]

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I am curious if when the slide show was first transferred to Premiere Elements 4, the transitions showed as "center at cut" or "end at cut"?

ATR,

My problem in PSE 5 was when I wanted to zoom out to the absolute edge of the photo. As I said I resolved by doing that zoom in PRE 3.

In PSE 6 slide show, is there any option to show the TV Safe Area?
The problem in PSE 5 and earlier is that people make their slides (perhaps crop from the original photo to make the slide) without knowing anything about the TV safe area until they have gone to Premiere Elements - so they must go back somehow and redo one, several or many photo images for slides that will have a reasonable image of the photo visible on TV. (cutting off the top of someone's head on the TV image is a classic example)

[ATR]

BarbO

So far I have not found a toggle on/off Save Margin feature in the Photoshop Elements 6 Slideshow Editor. Right now I say it is not there, but that is open to discovery in the black maze background.

What I did find was a "Full Screen Preview" in the Photoshop Elements 6 Slideshow Editor which I think could give you a good idea of what is happening with regard to cutoffs of components that are too near the edge. This might mitigate the revelations once you get to Premiere Elements 4 Monitor.

To be continued.....

ATR

[escheffner]

BarbO
The transitions showed at "end at cut" which was my problem. Now that I have played around with them, it looks how I want it to look. I haven't found that feature in the PSE6 in the slideshow editor. I guess everytime I do a slideshow I'll have to import it to PE4 and tweak it.
While I was looking into my transition issue, I tried to find a solution to your problem, but no luck.
Thanks for your help though.
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[Barb O]

thanks for your reply.

Which transition setting did you use and like in PRE 4?

My observation was that Center at Cut in PRE 3 was more equivalent to what PSE 5 did. However slide shows from PSE 5 came in to PRE 3 as End at Cut. Seems like that is the same in PRE4. So I suspect that you are correct that you will need to adjust the transition settings in PRE 4.

[escheffner]

BarbO
For the transition from picture to video, I liked "center at cut." For the transition from picture to picture or from video to picture, I found that "start at cut" most resembled what PSE4 did. I do like having the control to change when the transition starts because you never know when you're going to want a different look.
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[Barb O]

Thanks E
Interesting....We have some differences in our personal preferences, but your post is good "food for thought" especially for the transitions to/from video and photos.