Please Help!

[fearnot]

I'm sorry ahead of time, if this is a silly problem. I am so stuck!!
I am not a computer person at all... I just wanted to make myself a vacation keepsake. Was told that PE5 and PRE3 was an easy program for what I was looking for.
I have about 1500 pictures and maybe 30 minutes of video clips that I am trying to make into a DVD. I have been putting the slide show together in PE5and then sending it over to Premier to add the video clips. I must say that I didn't read much of my instruction book. Everything had been going pretty good except the last time I tryed to put another slide show in it would leave blank spaces and also some of the pictures would go into premier upside down. Reading thru some of these threads I realized that i should have been rendering and I haven't been doing that. I also haven't been using the timeline, just drop and drag. I decided to Render last night. I have 38 minutes of slide and video so far. It made it about 4 minutes into the slideshow and then an error came up. Not enough memory.I have 29GB left.Any suggestions? Should I start over? Rendering daily?

[baycruisers]

You seem to be saying that the error message "not enough memory" refers to disk space on your hard drive. Instead it may be referring to enough RAM (computer memory.) How much memory does your computer have?

[fearnot]

Thank you for responding... I have 1 GB of Ram. Do you think if I got 2 GB it would work?

[baycruisers]

To be honest, I can't say for sure. More RAM is always better, but mostly it speeds things up. If you have insufficient memory to perform an operation Windows XP creates or expands virtual RAM (page file) on your hard drive. It's slow, but it works.

I would try rebooting the PC and making sure that no unnecessary programs are running except PSE and your antivirus program. In fact, if you disconnect from the Internet you can turn off your AV program. They often do weird things.

[fearnot]

Thanks for the advice. I just found out that I have another hard drive. I didn't know anything about! I have 74 GB in that drive. I'm gonna try to get another GB of Ram but I can't find any place here that has it. I think i'll have to go to the city this weekend. In the mean time... maybe I should just start over, this time use the timeline.i will try your advice first and let you know. thanks a bunch!

[Byron Gale]

fearnot,

One thing which Premiere Elements just LOVES is a defragmented hard drive... I recommend you defrag and then try to render, again.

Even if it doesn't help, it couldn't hurt!!

Byron

[ATR]

Just a few add ons to the good advice you have already been given:

1. Great idea to use the Timeline. You will have more control.
2. Rendering Tip (generality...look above Video track of Timeline, if you see a red line across the top of the track, that = Render by pressing Enter in Edit. Green line = OK.
3. I am not sure what operating system you have, but here are links for optimizing Window XP and Vista for Premiere Elements:

Windows XP
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=333161&sliceId=2

Vista
http://forum.adobe.com/webx/.3bc448a7

4. Have you installed Premiere Elements 3.0.2 Update from Adobe? The link for that is:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3565

5. Remember to keep track of what you are going to be putting on that DVD disc as DVD-VIDEO. The standard DVD disc is 4.7 GB, 120 minutes. Quality will decrease as compression increases to fit the content on the disc.

6. Before you buy anything, consider determining how much of your problem is related to memory (RAM)/virtual memory and how much is due to your system needing optimization. Sometimes defragmentation (as per Byron) works wonders. Maybe optimize, do a project to see what happens (sort of baseline setting before you go from 1 to 2 GB). It is well worth your time to read the following classic FAQ about stress free video:

http://forum.adobe.com/webx/.3bbf8a18

Now that the difference between memory and hard drive space has been brought up, make sure you check these out.

I will be watching for your progress.

ATR

[fearnot]

Ok No luck so far... I did everything that you guys advised to do. How do I adjust my picture pixels if its already in my pc. I don't know what else to do but start over... ahhhhh! that just makes me sick.
HELP!!! Robin:0

[ATR]

Will be back later with further comments, but for now an answer to size question:

Take an image into the Photoshop Elements Editor. Go to the Image Menu/Resize Image/Image Size Dialog. In the Image Size Dialog evaluate your pixel dimensions and make adjustments if necessary.

ATR

[ATR]

Quick add on question...

If you do a mini version of your slideshow (using Timeline to look for and correct gaps), get a good DVD Preview, and then burn to disc, does it work?

ATR

[fearnot]

Dear ATR,
Yes, I did burn a mini DVD before my last addition. It burned fine. Even though I didn't render any of it. Everything works fine in PSE. As soon as I move it over to PE it seems like it drops pictures and sometimes it even puts them in upside down.

Robin

[baderms]

Any time I do a large video like yours I render it to my HD then burn it to DVD using other software. For some reason Premeir doesn't seem to work well when going staight to disc (IMHO).

[ATR]

Robin,

I am concerned that none of the previous suggestions, FAQs, articles, etc. have not made a dent in solving your issue.

It can be very frustrating. I have been there and back.

Think about this approach. Step back, and then review the offerings of this Thread, making sure to include each and every one of the suggestions in the links. Then, if you have not seen it, take a detailed look at the following link on making a large project in small pieces.

http://forum.adobe.com/webx/.3bbe608f

Also, what was the outcome of determining the pixel dimensions of the photos that you are using in the slideshow? Did you ever say what profile you are selecting for the wmv that is to be written in Photoshop Elements?? Important info.

ATR

[fearnot]

Ok guys, I might be onto something here. I'm thinking that my pictures might be to big for the project. i had my sister-in-law check things out for me. Even though my project is only 39 minutes long, whatever she did, said that it would be a 6 hour long dvd. AHHHHH! My vacation was great but I'm afraid that would bore even me!!! What i did realize thru all of you wonderful people was that my pictures are wayyyyy to big. That mght be my problem. So my next question is, What is the size I should bring it down too? Also, is there any way to change the size of my pictures in my project or am I gonna have to change each picture before it goes into the slideshow. i was playing with it last night until I fell asleep at the computer.( I know its pathetic) I will start over if need be. I'm just so happy to have maybe found the problem. thank you all so much. i was about ready to give it up and go with a different program. i thought this was suppose to be easy!! lol

Robin

[ATR]

Robin,

Really time to step back and take an overview. Way back in response #9 the question of image size came up and was left unanswered. As suggested then, do this NOW. Take a sampling of your images into the Photoshop Elements Editor.
Go to the Edit Menu up at the top and select Resize/Image Size/ and look in the Image Size Dialog. Near the top, it should say pixels dimensions Width & Height. As it says in the link below, there is no reason for those dimensions to exceed 1000 x 750 pixels.

http://forum.adobe.com/webx/.3bb8822c

Summary:

Read the link above along with re-reading suggestions and articles.

BEFORE you do anything, just report back what you see in the Image Size Dialog before you make any changes.

When you report back, also let us know what profile you selected when the wmv slideshow was written in Photoshop Elements. By that I mean...when you got to Output, did you select Save As A File, .MOV (wmv)? In that same dialog, what did you set as the File Size (that is referred to as selecting a profile which defines sizing) before the transfer to Premiere Elements.

So that we do not find this out later rather than sooner, what is going into this slideshow (jpeg photos only or other format, video/what format, audio/what format)?

With these pieces of information, we can go from there and try and save what you have done so far...if possible.

I admire your determination and stick-to-it-tiveness, but I suspect that it is working against you at this point. So, again step back, refresh, and then go forward.

If need be, we could work step by step together, you, other forum people, and myself.

Good luck.

ATR

[fearnot]

ATR,

I believe its time to step back, ya think! That's probably the best advice I've had all day. i gotta keep my sense of humor about this otherwise I would have quit along time ago!!

Ok. My image size of the one picture is 3072 x 2304. I know...don't yell at me please!!lol When I went to output,I didn't select "save as a file". I sent it directly to PE. as soon as I click on "send to PE", the file size dialog disappears. I didn't save as a file.Should I have done this?

Here is whats going into this project. My photos are jpeg, My videos are mpeg, and my audio is wma.

I hope I have answered all the questions. you are such a great help. I have learned more about this and my computer in the last few days. i can't thank everybody enough.
Well, i'm going back to read!!

Robin

[ATR]

Good news. I think that we have a handle on this.

Take the night off, and I will meet you back at the Thread tomorrow with a suggested plan of action.

Not tonight, but tomorrow let me know:
(1) How much editing of the slideshow do you do once you get it in Premiere Elements? (I am not counting adding video clips to the slideshow in Premiere Elements). How much editing of the video do you do in Premiere Elements?

(2) What is a rough idea of your layout? First the slideshow, then the video or some other arrangement?

(3) You say your video is mpeg. Where is it coming from? Is it video from a camera or camcorder? If so, let me know the brand and model, and I will double check the video format of the camera or camcorder.

I have a positive feeling about all this. So, I expect very shortly you will get to the creativity and fun part.

ATR

[fearnot]

ATR,

I put the whole slideshow together in PE5. The only editing I do is a little readjusting of the Audio once I put the video clips in.

The editing of the videos that I do is just splitting clips. About 15 to 30 sec clips so far through out.

The rough idea of this project is...Slideshow with captions, video clips throughout, audio through out except video clips have the original audio in it.

My video is coming from a DVD. Some is coming from a Sony Handycam DCR-DVD 105. Others I burned to a DVD from a VHS.

I'll be leaving out of town in a few hours but I'll try to post in the evening sometime. I hope i'm giving you the info that your needing.

Robin

[ATR]

Robin,

Just to let you know, I am still working on your problems.

I am trying to work out the wrinkles

(a) downsizing your 1500 photos each to at least 1000 x 750 pixels to avoid program crashes associated with either the writing of the wmv in Photoshop Elements and/or the sizing to video standard by Premiere Elements

(b) even if we get through that, the standard DVD disc specs are 4.7 GB, but importantly 2 hours capacity...one approach is to uncheck "fit to disc" in the Burn Dialog of Premiere Elements and lower the Bitrate before burn. However, lowering the Bitrate translates into lower quality.

Are you still thinking about getting 1500 photos plus 30 minutes of video in this slideshow? Any chance of editing down?

Check me out on these minimum calculations...1500 photos at about 5 sec duration per photo = 7500 sec = about 2 hours...if you add 30 minutes of video = 2 1/2 hour slideshow. Even if the problems are overcome, will your audience hang in there through that long slideshow?

To be continued...

ATR

[fearnot]

ATR,

I'm going thru my photos today to see about eliminating some of them. Let you know when I get back on line.

Robin

[fearnot]

ATR,

Just finished counting my pictures. I think I've done pretty good getting them edited down. I have around 700 pictures and 15 minutes of video clips.

Now, do I go into my editor and change the size of my pictures there?


Robin

[ATR]

Good Morning Robin,

Looking good.

Of course there is always resizing of the images in the Image Size Dialog in Photoshop Elements in the Full Edit Mode. But for 700 photos....

I have never done this with 700 photos, but one idea might be:
Get all photos for resizing in one new folder on the hard drive
Then use the Process Multiple Files in Photoshop Elements full Edit Mode to resize all.

In my Photoshop Elements 3, it is:
In Full Edit Mode, it is File Menu/Process Multiple Files
In the dialog that opens, after your designate Source and Destination Locations
Go to the Image Size section of the dialog and set the Width and Height
as well as checking "Convert Files To" and setting JPEG Max Quality

I would give all of this a test run with a few non important photos before going for the selected 700.

Good luck.

ATR

[ATR]

Coming thoughts add on....

The next step will be creating the slideshow in your Photoshop Elements 5 and then deciding how to send (Output) it to your Premiere Elements 3

As Is route

OR

wmv route (if this way, remember to set the File Size in the dialog before the writing of the wmv to

DVD NTSC if USA or DVD PAL depending on your location)


ATR

[ATR]

Hi,

I spent the afternoon doing some test runs. Unfortunately, I did not have 700 images with which to experiment. I had about 300.

The Process Multiple Files did a good job for resizing 300 images automatically. It took about 15 to 25 minutes to resize my 300 images to 1000 x 750 pixels. They all started out with about the same pixel dimensions as your original photos.

I created a slideshow (nothing fancy) in Photoshop Elements 3. My Photoshop Elements 3 and Premiere Elements 2 only allow me to do the wmv route, not the "as is" as well (as seen with Photoshop Elements 5 and Premiere Elements 3). Photoshop Elements 3 handled the writing of the wmv with the DVD NTSC profile very well, but it did take 30 minutes plus for completion of the task.

I saved the wmv in the Organizer and sent it from there to Premiere Elements 2. No problems. I did have to wait for the conforming to be complete before moving onward (watched progress bar, mine is lower right of screen). Several minutes.

Once on the Timeline, the slideshow had a red line over the video track. That meant that I needed to Render by pressing Enter in the Edit Mode. That process took hours, but was needed.

I have not had time to go further. But, the Burn to Disc process is also going to take hours.

Depending on the situation of your system, this could be a very long process. This account is not "written in stone", but is meant to give you one person's story with just 300 images.

To be continued....

ATR

[fearnot]

ATR,

Your awesome! I can't believe all the work your going thru to help me. I've been resizing all my pic manually. Its really not that bad. Going fast. I did put a few testers in a folder, but can you tell me what I put in the designate Source and destination Location? Also, when i go to change my pic size, a box comes up that says JPEG options. Do I click on Low, Medium, High or Maximum for image quality. And can you explain what "version set" is. Should I make it version set.

I hope these questions don't seem silly to you. But I don't know.:o

Robin

[ATR]

Robin,

I rarely if ever have used Version Sets. The Help describes it "A Version Set is a type of stack that contains an original photo and its edited versions." In principle it sounds great, but I would need to explore it before I could share pros and cons.

But for the present, this is what you might want to consider. To keep your original images separate from your resized ones.....

1. Create two folders on the Desktop. Name one, original photos, and name the other, resized photos.
2. Open Photoshop Elements Full Editor and go to File/Process Multiple Files and the Process Multiple Files dialog
3. Start with no check marks in the dialog, and then go to and check Image Size.
Type in values for Width & Height in pixels (I used 1000 x 750)
Do not exceed those values and, if you lower the values, remember to keep the aspect ratio of 4:3. In the Resolution area, I used 200 pixels/inch.
4. Next go to and check File Type. Place a check mark after "Convert Files to". I used JPEG Max Quality.
5. I put a check mark before "Log Errors that result processing files". Sometimes at the end of the resizing I get an error message, yet I find all my photos resized in the proper folder nonetheless. So, check out the situation if you run into that sort of thing and continue if photos are actually sized and in the right folder.
6. Where it says Source, go to the Browse and, in the dialog that opens, select the folder that you made and named Original Photos (if you saved these folders on the Desktop, you probably will see them at the bottom of the dialog). Click OK in the Browse for Folder dialog.
7. Where it says Destination, go to the Browse. In the dialog that opens, select the folder that you made and named Revised Photos. Click OK in the Browse for Folder dialog.

That should do it after you click OK to the Process Multiple Files dialog.

If you are doing the resizing one at a time in the Image Size Dialog of the Full Editor, for JPEG options consider Maximum Quality and Baseline Optimized.

Probably 6 and 7 of my list should be at the top, but you get the idea.

I will try to do some exploration of version sets and see what that has to offer in reality.

ATR

[fearnot]

ATR,

I'm ready to restart my project. I went to create my new slideshow, ( I will be breaking it up into small pieces.) I'm concerned because it told me I could only have 500 pictures in this slide show. Is Premiere Elements gonna let me have a bigger project then that? I think it will but I thought I'd better ask this time before I jump right into it. I will be breaking the slide show up into days. 10 days to be exact. Also , I plan on rendering after each day.

I'm more nervous this time then I was when I first started. I'm also nervous about using the timeline. Its so easy with the other one. Just drag and drop.


Any thing else you want to tell me before I venture out again? :)

Robin

[ATR]

Where are you getting the message that you can have only 500 photos in the Photoshop Elements 5 slideshow? Is it in Photoshop Elements 5 and when?

When you are adding photos to the Timeline in Photoshop Elements 5 where you are creating this slideshow?
Or, is it when you go start the writing of the wmv/middle of the wmv writing/end of wmv writing???

I do not recall a max number for the slideshow in Photoshop Elements slideshows. In my mini test I had about 300 photos that I put thru the task.

Now that the photos have all been downsized, what happens if you send the Photoshop Elements 5 slideshow "as is" to Premiere Elements.

As an experiment, you could take your 500 resized photos and import ALL to Premiere Elements media panel as if you were going to do your slideshow only in Premiere Elements. This would be to see how Premiere Elements handles the load. I may try that tomorrow with my Photoshop Elements 3 and Premiere Elements 2.

However, doing a large project in small pieces may be the better idea.

I am always learning, so I cannot wait to try this tomorrow.

To be continued...

ATR

Do not be nervous. Nothing is written in stone. You can always go to plan B or C, etc. You will look back on all this and consider the plus side, a good learning experience. But, I sense success right around the corner.

[fearnot]

Well... I wish I could tell you all my project was a success, but....After starting over 2 times now, I'm ready to go find a new software. One that will accomplish what I was hoping for. I have worked for 7 months on this and frankly...there must be something out there that will work for me. I'm so discussed with Premier Elements. I thought this was suppose to be fairly easy.

Robin :(

[ATR]

Robin, what happened?

Where did the plan go bad? If you have the time, give me a summary of what you did and where it blew up? It was looking so promising, I thought.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

If your using the WMV route to get a PSE slideshow to Premiere Elements you may have serious problems, best to use the Send (Slideshow) to Premiere Elements instead, or better yet, build the project in Premiere Elements to start with. If you must use the WMV method convert the WMV to DV-AVI using Windows Movie Maker first and bringing that file into Premiere Elements.

[ATR]

Robin,

I have seen Chuck Engels comments. To address the issues at hand I do need to know what blew up and when and where.

This all started out with very oversized stills and "a lot" of them. That case would create a serious problem whether you went the as is route or the wmv route that was brought up previously. In one case the sizing burden would be on Photoshop Elements in the wmv sizing (profile). On the other hand the sizing burden would be on the Premiere Elements side.

Way back when you mentioned getting your video from a Sony Handycam DVD105. Does that camera record to a miniDVD disc? If so, did you get that video into Premiere Elements 3 via the Media Downloader? When these failures (yet to be defined) occur, are you trying to burn to disc your project (stills + video). If so, what happens if you just burn to disc your project (just stills) or (just video). What form are these videos in. If they were ripped from the miniDVD of the Sony, they should be VOBs?

In case anyone else wants to jump in and since this is a long thread, I will remind the lookers in that Robin is using Photoshop Elements 5 and Premiere Elements 3.

To be continued.....

ATR

[fearnot]

I will try to answer as best I can.I am on day 8 of 10. I can almost see the finish line. I was working the project in my C drive but it used up all my memory so I ended up moving everything to my D drive. I still have everything in my C drive but I'm doing everything in my D drive now. I thought maybe thats why its acting so crazy. Should I delete the program from C? I have 38 gb of memory left in D. Again, the program is putting my pictures in upside down. I also have to go back everytime I open the project and re-render parts. Its mostly the transitions that have to re-rendered. I hold my breath everytime I open PE now. Sometimes it renders and sometimes it tells me I'm out of memory. Sometimes I re try again and it works. As of last night It won't let me save the project. I just got a serious error reading again. it says it requires APP to shut down and will attempt to save. But suggests that I save in a different file. AGAIN. My video clips are VOB's. it shows I have 58 minutes in my project. I 'm sorry if i sounded snootie last night. Just tired of this whole thing and want to move on to something that will work. Very upsetting.

Robin

[ATR]

Robin,

I need to go back and read every word of your prior posts again.

I have never gotten myself involved in a project of large proportions, but from what I have read the really big projects demand use of a lot of RAM including at least one external hard drive.

The recommendations that I have seen include having your program files for Premiere Elements on the C drive and directing the scratch files (project files) to the External Hard Drive (see Preferences/Scratch Disc). Does what you are doing come close to this type of description?

The message that I am getting is that the computer does not have enough resources to meet the demands of the project.
Are you unloading unnecessary items as you go
Are you defragmenting daily
Have you tried adding more RAM and free hard disc space

I need to think out what you are doing on the C and D drives? What is this D drive? Have you checked how those scratch discs are set up?

I will get back to you. Stay calm as I head back to your prior posts.

ATR

[ATR]

Robin,

From October 17, 2007 until November 13, 2007, I think that we lost track of one another.

Are you now putting together DV AVIs that you created maybe with batches of about 300 (1000 x 750 pixels each) or something else?

ATR

[mkctlc2001]

ATR,

Just wanted to say thank you for the detail help you are giving Robin. I too have a large project that I will start as soon as I can get PSE6 / PE4 loaded onto my computer. I am saving this link as a reference as I am sure, I too will have the same problems. I have never worked in PE before - but reading your post is taking some of the nerviousness away. Thanks for your help.:)

[Barb O]

I too have a large project that I will start as soon as I can get PSE6 / PE4 loaded onto my computer.

Marilyn,

Please, please, please do a small project first as a learning exercise.

Resize a copy of your photo files for the video down to a significantly lower pixel resolution: 1000 x 750 is a common recommendation.

When you are ready, I recommend that you start a new thread and tell us exactly what type of movie file you have. Then someone can advise you what preparation is advised (if any) before you import that movie file to Premiere Elements.

[ATR]

Marilyn,

BarbO's suggestion to get the basic down before expanding into bigger project is a good plan.

You will find that, although problems may seem the same from user to user, there is no one cure fits all.

New people, new projects tend to get buried in a long thread such as this. So, great idea to start another thread if and when the time is ready.

No matter how small or large the question, we will try to tackle it. But, do not be afraid to explore, experiment, and ask questions. Sometimes you may encounter different opinions. Often there is more than one way to get to a goal. Evaluate and use what works for you.

Will be watching your progress.

ATR

[Chuck Engels]

Can we maybe start a new thread, this one is way to long and you really need to start with a small project as everyone has said, I couldn't agree more.

I have spent the last week trying to help a fellow user at the muvipix forum that is having very similar issues. She was trying to burn a huge project and kept getting the famous 'Premiere Elements Must Close' error.

After making sure she had all of the most current drivers for her audio and video cards, and then updating the firmware for her DVD Burner, she started a very small project, it burned without a problem :)

Let's start with a small project as Barb and ATR have suggested, sometimes it takes 'Baby Steps' :)

[fearnot]

Ok...First of all, I finally got all 10 days in the video. So that part of it is done. I also got it to save everything. The problem now is it keeps saving it over and over and over. My D drive is quickly getting smaller and smaller. Also, while I'm in the middle of rendering it keeps telling me a serious error has occurred so it saves it again. I shut everything down and restart it and I have to start all over again rerendering it.It goes on and on and on. Why isn't it saving my rendering? I'm afraid to start burning it to DVD for fear of it telling me of a serious error. Would I be better off copying it to a file and burning from my PC's burner? Also, can I burn it without rendering it? I really can see the finish line now. i just cryed today when I actually finished the project and it saved it. Are we having fun yet?

Robin

[ATR]

Robin,

Is this D drive that you are referring to an external hard drive? It sounds like it is?

I suspect that you are pushing your system resources to the limit.

Before you started this big project, did you verify that everything was functioning OK for the smaller projects, including Rendering a little project? I think you did. But, my understanding of Chuck Engels next suggestion for you is for you to start off with a small project. I suspect that you are beyond that point, but just verify to clear the situation for CE.

Assuming that you had a firm handle on the before the project situation, now back to the matter at hand. Several pitfalls ahead, let us see how we can get around them.
1. Rendering. If you have that red line across the top of the Timeline, you need to Render. If you do not, there will probably be some otherwise avoidable glitches along the way. Last I remember your project is about 60 minutes long. Is that the time for this final product that is ready for output, except for the Render? Do I have this right...these are all your DV AVI combined in this one project, Correct?
Unless you have not already, get as many unnecessary large files off the computer as possible, maybe even burn them to disc or move them to InCDs. Shutdown every unnecessary program that you could possibily have running in the background. Defragment.
2. Saving. Are your saving battles related to saving your project to the same location as before. Maybe make sure you "Save As" to a new separate location, just in case. Are those scratch disc files set up OK? Will it let you do that (that is after the computer clean up)?? Above the Timeline is a gray area (Work Bar Area). There are two tabs up there. One to the far left (start) and the other to the right (end of project on the Timeline). Those two tabs need to span across your entire project. Sometime the right one gets pushed to somewhere in the middle of the project. That means that Rendering will stop where that right one is positioned. So watch out for that. If that should be the case, move that right tab to the end of the project on the Timeline.
3. Now, what next? If you have Nero software, then I would say (as a first try) burn to folder (4.7 GB). Make sure you name and designate this "folder to be" to avoid losing time trying to find it later. Once you have that folder generated, you will use Nero BURN VIDEO FILE to get it to a DVD disc. I will provide instructions for that if necessary. The alternative is to try to burn it to disc (4.7 GB/120 min) with the burn to disc feature of Premiere Elements.
Use with the "Fit to disc" checked and note (after you put the disc in drive) what the Quality Setting in the Burn Dialog says for Space Required and Bitrate. Any bitrate lower than 8 means that the required compression to fit all that on your disc is going to lower the quality of the end product. More compression..lower bitrate...lesser quality.

Just do not lose what you have worked so hard to put together.

I am waiting for those magic words, I did it! You have come a long way, although those last reports had me a bit edgy.

ATR

[fearnot]

FINALLY!!

ATR, It finally worked!! I wish I could tell you how but by all means it shouldn't have worked. It wouldn't let me render and it kept shutting my pc down saying a serious error has occured. i was ready to just give it up when I decided to just try to burn it the way it was... well, It worked!! i have watched it 2 times already. In between tears! It turned out to be 106 minutes long. Perfect!! the pictures are so crisp and clear!! AMAZING! I wish I could say i was happy with this program but I am not. To many hiccups for a newbie like me. If it wasn't for you and this awesome web site... I would have quit along time ago. You are a very talented person and i thank you so much for going easy on me. I still can't believe it worked!!

Robin:)

[ATR]

Robin,

I was so very happy to learn of your success. And, I know the feeling that you had when you first viewed this long sought after creation.....sheer joy and emotion when you realized "I did it! Mission accomplished".

These really big projects can be challenging to difficult for professionals as well as newcomers. So, do not be too hard on yourself or the program. Have many happy moments of creating your movies and sharing them with friends and family.

Thanks for your stick-to-it-tiveness, putting together your skills, and mostly for hanging in there with me with my long posts. You were the one that did it. Congratulations.

ATR