Converting sizes

[Storm1]

How do you change a finished Montage which is 8x10 into 5x7.
Thank you . Storm

[Chuck S.]

Storm, if only it were easy.....

However, the aspect ratio (side length compared to top length) of an 8 by 10 is different than the ratio for a 5 by 7. As a result, cropping the image will be necessary, which will no doubt mess up your frame or even some of the embedded photos. Just stretching the image in one dimension is possible, but will really distort the appearance of the image.

The best way to handle this is to plan ahead and create two (or more!) versions of the project - one with an 8 by 10 ratio and the other with a 5 by 7. They'll look slightly different (object spacing) but it will give you the flexibility you need to print in two sizes.

[Storm1]

Thanks Chuck but if I went 4x5 I would be O.K. Maybe this is why Scrappers work at 8x8. 4x4 but then I would have to Print myself & I do not want to do that. Such is Life!
Storm

[Tina_B]

You can make 5X7 to start with and then you do not have to change any sizes. I made the mistake of trying to make an 8x10 in to a 5x7 and ended up starting over at the 5X7 size. I cropped off to much of my page. Math was not my subject!!

Tina B

[Chuck S.]

You can make 5X7 to start with and then you do not have to change any sizes. I made the mistake of trying to make an 8x10 in to a 5x7 and ended up starting over at the 5X7 size. I cropped off to much of my page. Math was not my subject!!

Tina B

Tina, if you start with a 5x7 (which has a ratio of 7 divided by 5 or 1.4), you still have to do some cropping to make an 8x10(which has a ratio of 10 divided by 8 or 1.25). There's just no getting away from that math....:confused:

[cats4jan]

Scrapbook layouts are so different than photos - we create to the aspect - and there's no changing that aspect unless you have large areas of background on the edges that can be cropped as needed.

There's no getting around it - you need to have your finished size in mind when you do a page. Or at best - you need to have your finished aspect in mind.

If you are willing to have a print with white space - Target's machine lets you fit your layout onto their set sizes. It won't be a true 5x7 but at least your entire project will be on the page.

[Storm1]

No Target store here in British Columbia Janice. More the pity because among my Huband's many Hobbies is making Frames & matting. I have Card Stock thanks to another post of yours & I would be a happy camper :D
I only have 4 so am thinking of getting PSE 6.
Storm

[Tina_B]

I think the problem was starting at the 8x10 so if she could have started at the 5x7 to begin with there would not be any crop issue. I am still struggling to get the ratio thing down.
Tina B

[Chuck S.]

Tina, it's about the shape of the rectangle, not the size in inches. A 5 by 7 rectangle is proportionately longer than an 8 by 10 rectangle. If you've sized your photo to match one rectangle's proportions, it won't fit the other rectangle's proportions and you'll have to crop. Makes no difference which one you start with - you're still going to have to change the proportions and that means cropping.

[Storm1]

Keep working on it Tina ;) I am wondering just how important is this Aspect Ratio in order to get a reasonable print job. Like you Math & Me are not Compatible period. :D
Storm

[Chuck S.]

Storm, it's only important if you want to have your photo exactly fit a stock frame or mat size. If you can get a custom frame or cut your own mat, you have a whole lot more flexibility.

To complicate matters further, a stock mat for a 5 by 7 may have an actual opening of 4 3/4 inches by 6 3/4 inches; if you don't know that in advance and print your photo at 5 by 7, the mat will effectively crop it another 1/8 inch all the way around!

My approach to the situation where you're going to use a stock size:

Buy frame and precut mat.
Measure dimensions of opening in mat.
Set Crop tool to those dimensions and crop.
Print.Any other approach introduces uncertainty.....and math....

:)

[frank abramonte]

A quick way of determining whether you can reduce or enlarge a size in proportion to one you want is to use this simple method. All you need is a pencil, paper and ruler. If the display is too large for your monitor then just save the file to desk top and open in PSE where can reduce it to fit your screen, i mistakingly made it a little too large.

http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1sHF15UU08C65YJIXYsh7aUtgVxv4B0_thumb.jpg (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1sHF15UU08C65YJIXYsh7aUtgVxv4B0)



http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1sHF15UU08C65YJIXYsh7aUtgVxv4B0

[Storm1]

Thank you Chuck for putting up with me . :) I hate math.
Thank you Frank for a good visual aid.
The rain has eased off so gotta take the Dog for a walk
Thanks Storm

[dennymcc]

what ive had to so in a crunch, and if there is space in the phot between the subject and the border, and the background between the subject and the border is fairly uniform. go to resize-canvas size, then add the amount you need to the edges. make a new layer, and choise your clone stamp tool. reduce the opacity a little. and sample from the back ground, then sill in the area that you just added. give it a little gaussian blur, then crop to a 5x7 . i use this when im doing photo's for wallet size prints. help when they are being die cut, so you dont loose any picture. good luck

[Karin Sue]

Easy method. No calculating required.

On your montage, select all, edit> copy merged.
File>New from clipboard.

On your new document go to image size and be sure constrain proportions is checked. Change the width and height till you find one that works.

Going from 8x10 to 5x7: changing the 10 to 7 gives a width of 5.6--too big. Changing the 8 to 5 gives a height of 6.25--fits.

Now go to canvas size and set it to 5x7, set it to add all the extra at the top or bottom. Either trim off the extra 3/4 inch strip or add color, words or clipart.

http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1R0hjbMXdBtzjdED0S8qlid25R61_thumb.jpg (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1R0hjbMXdBtzjdED0S8qlid25R61)