Pse 6

[Hummie]

Anyone know when version 6 is coming out? The last versions seemed to all come out in the fall. I do not want to upgrade if a new version is going to come out shortly after I purchase 5.

I use version 3 and love it! But I try to teach others and kind of need their version.:)

[cats4jan]

The great question of the year

I bought PSE4 and 5 came out a few months later. I would wait until the time period where they've typically upgraded passes - as I understand that - it was October the last couple of years.

No matter - if they are planning on upgrading soon, I'm betting it would come out for the Christmas season.

[Hummie]

Do you remember if they announced it was upcoming last time before it came out and how much in advance.

October is only a month and a half away.

[RobertSchuldenfrei]

Hi Hummie,

Welcome to the friendliest community on the web. It is the place for all things Photoshop Elements (PSE). A few weeks ago I filled out a long questionnaire from Adobe. I think that they are still trying to decide which functions and features they are going to release. The development is probably done, but they still can plug in or remove objects from the release candidate. Does anyone know if Adobe does public beta testing?

I agree that it will be before Christmas. Follow this thread for more information and speculation:

http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26214

Cheers,

Bob

[Hummie]

Thank you for the warm welcome. I have been a member here for a long time and read some threads occassionally, but I was a bit shocked that I had never actually posted!:p

I am not a member of the subscriber area though...I think it was the money thing. Sigh.

I will go on over and read that thread...thanks for the link.

I did have one thing I really wanted in the next version and that is for paths. I do digital scrapbooking and really have a need for text on paths. I believe this one feature alone would get a lot of people to upgrade! I did send in a suggestion through the adobe site yesterday as to this.

I have been telling my blog readers that I will purchase a newer version as soon as I get enough donations. I really love my PSE3 and actually do not like several of the features in the newer versions as I have seen them. The only reason I would like to upgrade is so that I can continue teaching others better. I am almost at enough money to purchase the next version, but do not want to do so if a new version is coming out, so I will advise my readers to be patient until Christmas!:)

[Wendy]

Hi ...

I very much doubt that some of the higher end things from Photoshop like paths will ever make their way into Elements ... but who knows :)

Wendy

[cats4jan]

text paths seem to be a favorite for scrapbookers

The upgrades we see will depend upon whether they choose to cater to scrapbookers or give the expert photographer more functions for their editing work.

I wonder what "phase" of digi-scrapping we are at. Is the interest increasing now - or is it waning?

I don't know how long people have been doing these intricate digital scrapbook pages. Is it a newer hobby?

So - as I see it - what we see on the next version of PSE will depend upon whether Adobe will be reaching out to scrappers or staying true to form.

With the end of Microsoft's Digital Image product - Adobe is the only quality choice left for the digi scrapper and I would like to see more ways to manipulate graphics and text and enhance photos with framing techniques.

But really - if they were looking at a Christmas release date, isn't it kinda late to still be tweaking the software? Shouldn't it already be in the manufacturing stage?

If people are still communicating to Adobe about what they want to see in the new version, it doesn't seem like the software is finished.

[Hummie]

I am not positive, but I believe Paint Shop Pro, the second most used program for digiscrappers, has text on paths. I have been tempted to learn it just for that one feature.

Digital Scrapbooking continues to be on the rise. Many people are converting from traditional scrapbooking with paper.

I have been doing it for two years now. It is a bit older than that, but I have seen it grow tremendously since I came on board. It is kind of fun to watch it grow and evolve.

It is also interesting to watch the manufacturers respond to the demand for it. I have witnessed this on more than one occassion.

[TonyW]

The interesting thing about Elements is that is does understand paths deep down, at least to some extent. Text on a path created in Photoshop is understood and can be edited by Elements and there are plug-ins available (I haven't tried any of them) that supposedly let you work with paths.

http://www.humansoftware.com/pages1200/Ottopath/HSotto11.html
http://www.humansoftware.com/pages1200/PathsElem/HSpathsfram11.html
http://www.hiddenelements.com/elements5_tools.html

How far you can tap into paths within Elements I don't know and haven't really experimented but I wouldn't think it out of the question that one of these days you might see the ability to put text around a shape for example (and a shape is a path)

Tony

[graficalicus]

...speculation...

...is the key word. Adobe is notoriously tight-lipped about release dates for all of their products, but +/-18 months between releases for PS has been the norm for many years. usually, you won't know for sure if or when there's a new release coming until they announce pre-order plans.

The "imminent PSE 6" talk started here and there about 3 or 4 months after 5 was released ;) -

[GaryK]

Tony

Been a while since I've been to Richard's site. I wonder how his paths work?

I have a feeling that text on a path and/or the extruded superman logo type of text, would be a surefire upgrade for most digiscrappers and nearly everybody else.:)

[RobertSchuldenfrei]

Hi ...

I very much doubt that some of the higher end things from Photoshop like paths will ever make their way into Elements ... but who knows :)

Wendy
Hi Scrappers & Forum,

I do not do a lot of this kind of stuff. I have played around with word art in Microsoft Word. Within limits you can construct paths on which text can be formed. Just a quick experiment produced:

1298

Others, more skilled than I could probably make use of this.

Cheers,

Bob

[Byron Gale]

...I will purchase a newer version as soon as I get enough donations...Hey... me, too!!

[Hummie]

I will check out your links for text paths, but in the digiworld, we do utilize those made in PS. If I am ever in need of one, I have friends that will make me one. It is easy to just replace the text with my own text.

Here (http://http://blog.hummiesworld.com/2007/07/flying-away.html) is one I did recently with someone else's path.

It would just be nice to be able to make my own.

[Hummie]

Yes, I played around with this a long time ago. It is not much different than the warp tool in PSE. They can be imported into layouts from Word, but there's a trick to it...I'd have to play to remember how that is done.

The thing with digital scrapbookers is that we want our text to match the flow of another element (border, ribbon, tag, etc.), which is hard to get exactly the same without text paths.

Hi Scrappers & Forum,

I do not do a lot of this kind of stuff. I have played around with word art in Microsoft Word. Within limits you can construct paths on which text can be formed. Just a quick experiment produced:

1298

Others, more skilled than I could probably make use of this.

Cheers,

Bob

[Hummie]

Uggg. That first one (2 links) is $99! That's as much as PSE! Uh, not! I'll continue to bug my friends for paths before I buy that.

Now the Hidden Power of Elements one is $25 which is more reasonable. Has anyone tried this? If PSE 6 does not have it, I might consider this purchase.

Also, I guess I should send in this suggestion to Adobe too, but maybe they read here. I played with a friend's PSE5 and it drove me nuts whenever a blending mode or a layer style had to be accepted. I like in my PSE 3 when I can just scroll through the blending modes with my mouse and see the preview right away and stop when I am done. Also, with the layer styles, I just keep clicking and seeing the preview right away on each style until I am satisfied...I did not like the two step process in PSE5!

Okay, I had another complaint of something they changed, but it just escaped my brain and won't come back right now. Anyone else have that problem?


The interesting thing about Elements is that is does understand paths deep down, at least to some extent. Text on a path created in Photoshop is understood and can be edited by Elements and there are plug-ins available (I haven't tried any of them) that supposedly let you work with paths.

http://www.humansoftware.com/pages1200/Ottopath/HSotto11.html
http://www.humansoftware.com/pages1200/PathsElem/HSpathsfram11.html
http://www.hiddenelements.com/elements5_tools.html

How far you can tap into paths within Elements I don't know and haven't really experimented but I wouldn't think it out of the question that one of these days you might see the ability to put text around a shape for example (and a shape is a path)

Tony

[Wendy]

Hi ...

Adobie will not see your message here so it would be best to send it to them :)

Wendy

[RobertSchuldenfrei]

Yes, I played around with this a long time ago. It is not much different than the warp tool in PSE. They can be imported into layouts from Word, but there's a trick to it...I'd have to play to remember how that is done.

The thing with digital scrapbookers is that we want our text to match the flow of another element (border, ribbon, tag, etc.), which is hard to get exactly the same without text paths.
Hi Hummie,

Yes indeed there is a trick. I could not just place the Word Art on the Clipboard. I had to place my whole screen on the Clipboard and bring it into PSE (at 72 ppi). Then, use a selection tool to grab the type. I took the easy way out just for the experiment and used Rectangular Marquee. As I said in my original post, I do not do this often, so I do not know what kind of flexibility it has. "That the dog walks at all..." It is just that so many folks have Word might make this attractive. If you have Word, it's free!

BTW, I am a veteran of placing the whole screen on the Clipboard. This is how I get PSE screen shots into PowerPoint.

Cheers,

Bob

[Hummie]

Hi ...

Adobie will not see your message here so it would be best to send it to them :)

Wendy

I plan on it, as soon as I can remember the other things so I don't spam them with a bunch of messages for suggestions...lol!

It's a shame they don't have someone reading here. Sigh.

[Hummie]

Yes, that is one way, but there is another way....but my brain hurts right now. Giggle. I did not get enough sleep. Okay, that's just an excuse...my brain is always slow lately!

If I remember from long ago, another feature that is good with Word is that you can just do regular journaling and have it justified and then bring it into PSE...PSE3 does not justify text.

I think the trick is ...umm...has something to do with selecting the text, copying it to the clipboard...and then pasting it into PSE. There is a way to do it without bringing the white background into PSE. But it has been so long since I played and figured that out.

Hi Hummie,

Yes indeed there is a trick. I could not just place the Word Art on the Clipboard. I had to place my whole screen on the Clipboard and bring it into PSE (at 72 ppi). Then, use a selection tool to grab the type. I took the easy way out just for the experiment and used Rectangular Marquee. As I said in my original post, I do not do this often, so I do not know what kind of flexibility it has. "That the dog walks at all..." It is just that so many folks have Word might make this attractive. If you have Word, it's free!

BTW, I am a veteran of placing the whole screen on the Clipboard. This is how I get PSE screen shots into PowerPoint.

Cheers,

Bob

[TonyW]

PSE3 does not justify text.

That was a limitation in PSE3. PSE4 and beyond support paragraphy text (text boxes) which open up a lot more opportunities for text manipulation with actions. I posted a simple action here somewhere that will justify text but it won't work in PSE3.

Tony

[cats4jan]

The "imminent PSE 6" talk started here and there about 3 or 4 months after 5 was released

Sounds like we're never satisfied with what we have. LOL

I think it's just fun to speculate.

Hummie - Interesting thoughts on where digi-scrapping is - I just discovered it about 6 months ago.

I had dabbled and I mean dabbled with a little cut and paste - in greeting cards, but never made a paper scrapbook page. But now - with all the sites dedicated to digi-scrapping - I am really interested.

The only thing that holds me back is lack of photos. No grandkids - no pets - no vacations lately - worked all my old photos to death. LOL

I am really enjoying this "new for me" hobby.

It's a hobby where you really can control your costs - and your mess - with ease.

[cats4jan]

When I create a word document that I want in a PSE project, I make a text box in PSE first - and then I am able to simply copy from the word document and paste into my text box.

To change the shape and size of the text box without changing the size and shape of your text - click on the text tool to edit - click somewhere on the text - and then the box can be manipulated.

If you use the move tool to alter the size of the box after the text is commited - you will re-shape the text.

Now, this doesn't address the issue of text along paths or irregular shapes, but it does answer the question of how to fit text from another source into any rectangular shape in PSE without retyping that text.

Most of you probably already knew this, but I just learned it a few weeks ago- and boy am I glad to not have to retype anymore.

[Hummie]

Oh, Oh OH, I remember what I was going to say! Giggle ;)

The undo button that I use constantly in PSE3! I understand you have to use Control Z in PSE5...what a bummer....they need to bring back the undo button. It's one of my most used buttons!

[cats4jan]

Hummie - if you keep your "undo history" palette open - you can step back as many steps as you want. I hardly ever use my undo button. (I am assuming there still is an "undo history" palette in 5.)

[Hummie]

Ah, interesting read! You made me realize how this works in PSE5...that's cool! PSE3 does not have text boxes and it has to be done another way. Some day I'll be "up" with the newer versions, most of what I know is what I learn from trying to help others and they figure it out and tell me the differences.

When I create a word document that I want in a PSE project, I make a text box in PSE first - and then I am able to simply copy from the word document and paste into my text box.

To change the shape and size of the text box without changing the size and shape of your text - click on the text tool to edit - click somewhere on the text - and then the box can be manipulated.

If you use the move tool to alter the size of the box after the text is commited - you will re-shape the text.

Now, this doesn't address the issue of text along paths or irregular shapes, but it does answer the question of how to fit text from another source into any rectangular shape in PSE without retyping that text.

Most of you probably already knew this, but I just learned it a few weeks ago- and boy am I glad to not have to retype anymore.

[Hummie]

Hummie - if you keep your "undo history" palette open - you can step back as many steps as you want. I hardly ever use my undo button. (I am assuming there still is an "undo history" palette in 5.)

Ahhh....aren't us old fogies hard to break of old habits? Giggle.
I suppose if they do not bring it back, I might be forced to open that undo history box and make myself use it. It just seems I have too much squeezed into my screen as it is!:o

[cats4jan]

That "undo history" palette is large, but I find I can't live without it. I use it all the time.

[Hummie]

Ahhh, welcome to the digiworld of scrapping! I have plenty of photos...want some to play with? Giggle.

I don't want to be forward and offend, but if you have a faith, there is always faithbooking. I enjoy that! Or, you could do as I do and make a garden book (http://http://www.photospot.fotki.com/scrapping_art/my_garden_book/) if you enjoy flowers.

The possibilities are endless. What other hobbies do you enjoy? We may be able to come up with photos you could take to utilize as digiscrapping.

My website is dedicated to digiscrapping...tons of links on the links page. Do you know how to find freebies?

Uh oh...this thread is getting off track from it's title!

Ummm, goodness, you all are so friendly around here. Look at when I registered and joined....see it up there in the right hand corner ...so long ago? Where have I been?

Sounds like we're never satisfied with what we have. LOL

I think it's just fun to speculate.

Hummie - Interesting thoughts on where digi-scrapping is - I just discovered it about 6 months ago.

I had dabbled and I mean dabbled with a little cut and paste - in greeting cards, but never made a paper scrapbook page. But now - with all the sites dedicated to digi-scrapping - I am really interested.

The only thing that holds me back is lack of photos. No grandkids - no pets - no vacations lately - worked all my old photos to death. LOL

I am really enjoying this "new for me" hobby.

It's a hobby where you really can control your costs - and your mess - with ease.

[cats4jan]

so long ago? Where have I been

I know where you've been, I've been using your tutorials for 6 months.:D:D

[Hummie]

I know where you've been, I've been using your tutorials for 6 months.:D:D

Oh my goodness! Too bad you cannot see this sheepish blush and half grin on my face right now.:o You'd get a smile right back! Warm fuzzies abound!

I'm glad someone knows where I've been because most times I do not!

[efarnstrom]

Hummie - if you keep your "undo history" palette open - you can step back as many steps as you want. I hardly ever use my undo button. (I am assuming there still is an "undo history" palette in 5.)

Hi, the answer is yes.

You probably know all this: I keep it docked in my palette section on the right of the screen. That way I can control how big a piece of desktop real estate I want to give it. To do that, click MORE at the top of that palette and check 'place in palette bin when closed.' The other thing I do is change the number of history states to some large number because it adds up when you are doing erase clicks or clone clicks on a very needy photo. To do this, in the Editor, go to Edit>Preferences>General>. I don't know how the history states work, but I presume it drops off the older ones as it adds new ones. So far I haven't reached 500 to find out!

[TonyW]

So far I haven't reached 500 to find out!

I have and it does :). Playing around with Blend Modes are the killer. Always forget to Undo after each one - just scrolling though them just adds to History. Wish they'd fix that - not really a bug but it's an annoyance.

Tony

[efarnstrom]

I have and it does :). Playing around with Blend Modes are the killer. Always forget to Undo after each one - just scrolling though them just adds to History. Wish they'd fix that - not really a bug but it's an annoyance.

Tony

I do the undo after each style change, etc. Yeah my Z looks like it may wear the letter off soon.