Sharing photos thru home network-missing file

[cliff]

I have a laptop and a desktop. Both are able to share files thru a home network. Both also have PSE5. Attempted to share photos thru the network and went fine. Designated pictures ended up in the organizer. When I go to open the pictures though I get a message that the file is missing. PSE5 then browses but can't find the file even though it is still on the computer. Advice? thanks

[jlwilm]

Hi Cliff,

Can you provide more details on the how you got the picture on the "other" computer, where/how you got it in the organizer and where (computer) you were trying to access and got the missing file info. Also, if the photo was networked (in terms of the computer you were using to access it), was the networked computer up and running when you tried it.

[cliff]

Hi

The other pictures were originally scanned and then edited on the laptop.

Got in the organizer thru get files and folders and then clicking where they were.

Got the missing file info when I clicked on the photos in organizer (BTW I also shared photos from the desktop to the laptop and same thing happened).

Yes, both computers were up and running.

thanks

[genevh]

By sharing do you mean that Computer A is trying to access files that reside on Computer B? Assuming you have sharing turned on so that each computer has access to the other's files, I'm not sure the Organizer can work like that over a network. Computer A's Organizer is probably thinking those pictures are on Computer A. But I could be wrong.......

Did a search on Adobe's support pages for network in PSE and came up blank.

[cliff]

Gene...yes that's exactly what I did. Have some different pictures on both computers. Wanted to just quickly share them with the other computer rather than burning.

[jlwilm]

Cliff,

Just ran a test - I have a networked disk drive and a file in a folder called Test on that drive. The drive is accessable to everyone on our workgroup.

I opened up a new catalog, did a Get Photos, from Files and Folders - it accesses them no problem. Nowm If I wanted to access that picture from another computer I would have to go to it, do the same Get Photos, from Files and Folders and then the Organizer on that 2nd computer would know how to get at the picture - which is stored in the same place on the network drive.

Do you have the picture in a shared folder or how are you getting it out on the network?

[cliff]

Under file I use export. Export to a file called temp pix. On other computer click Get photos. Have it look in temp pix (remember sharing is enabled on the network) and get the photos imported into PSE5. Click on whatever photos are in the temp pix folder and they are imported.....As I wrote this I sent one picture from one computer to the other. Now it works...I will never understand why Windows based computers are so erratic. Anyway, for the time being thanks all for helping...

[jlwilm]

Annoying, you bet. :mad:

One possibility is when you start up the computers, it takes a while for them to sniff out each other and establish themselves on the network. This varies, but they both have to complete this process before things settle down.

You may have been trying too quickly after turning things on.

[cliff]

OK...so I deleted the pictures on the laptop and then could not get them on the desktop. The pictures are stored under Microsft Windows Network in the workgroup i designated when setting up the network. I utilize a Microsoft router for my home network. When I try to move the folder into Adobe I am "denied access". So at this point I can edit the pictures and view them as long as the other computer keeps that file. Obviously not accpetaable. Any ideas???

[jlwilm]

Cliff,

I am not sure of exactly what you are describing. The pictures don't exist in the Windows Workgroup per se, they exist on one computer - either Desktop or Laptop, or in the case that I have, a networked disk drive that is attached directly to my router. Even in my case, the file physically exists on a disk drive that is accessible from the network.

In your case, assume the picture is originally scanned and loaded onto your laptop. You edit it save it either to where the scanner saved it or to another location My Pictures/Adobe/ . . . etc.

Launch PSE and get the picture accessible via address location from your desktop/to your desktop. Wherever it is on your laptop, you want to be sure that is shared on the network and can be "seen" by the other computers on the network.

Now, start up the desktop, launch organizer, click on the Get Photos and select From Files and Folders, Click on My Network Places, your Workgroup, Laptop, Shared Folder where the picture is and then click on the Get Photos.

Adobe will now load into the organizer on the desktop the addresses of the images, (that are stored on your laptop).

Now, as long as both computers are up, have been running for a while (at least a couple to five minutes, PSE should be able to access the picture from either computer as they will each use the appropriate catalog and address information (network info from the desktop, c:\docunents and settings\ . . . from the laptop.

Let me know if this makes sense.

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Launch PSE and get the picture accessible via address location from your laptop. Wherever it is on your laptop, you want to be sure that is shared on the network and can be "seen" by the other computers on the network.

[cliff]

John...what I'm trying to do is to be able to access photos on my desktop that I have 'shared' from the laptop without having the laptop on. Furthermore the file that was shared and is now on the desktop I would like to move into PSE5. In essence I would like full control of the photos on the desktop as if I had downloaded them from my camera...Is this possible?

[jlwilm]

The short answer is NO.

The photo has to exist somewhere and the workgroup/router is not a real place. It must physically exist on the laptop or desktop.

All network sharing allows you to do is access the information via the network. Before network days, users had to sneaker-net the stuff from one to the other. Sneaker-net because you had to copy ths info to a floppy and walk it over to the other computer.

Now, what you can do is scan, edit etc the photo on the laptop, leave it there, then go to the desktop, start it up, use My Newtork Places to navigate to the shared directory on the laptop, and do a copy/paste from laptop to desktop via the workgroup/router/network. Now the picture will physically exist in both places.

You can also initiate this action from the laptop to the desktop if you have the network permissions set up properly.

Once copied to desktop, you can delete from laptop.

[cliff]

Took your suggestion...When pasted ends up in a shared picture file. If, however, the pic is deleted from that file, PSE5 cannot find it. Same as before. Difficulty is getting it to reside in PSE5 and not another folder. Assume not doable and will figure a workaround...thanks

[jlwilm]

Cliff,

That is the whole point though. The organizer is only an address book, it contains no pictures. Delete the picture and the address is no longer valid.

If you have a paper based address book and the house is moved/burned up/wiped out, even though you still have its location in your address book it is gonzo.