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Hector
May 20th, 2007, 08:38 PM
I hope this isn't an illegal forum question. If it is please let me know and accept my apology.
Recently I think I saw an offer for Lightroom that was about 100.00 less than the advertised price.
Was I imagining that or does anyone out there know more about this?
Thanks.
Goofup
May 21st, 2007, 04:36 AM
You are right, Adobe had it "on sale" for $199 till April 30, but now it's the normal price, $299. The early birds got the worm.
perryp
May 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM
You are right, Adobe had it "on sale" for $199 till April 30, but now it's the normal price, $299. The early birds got the worm.
does lightroom interface with pse5?
dondiego
May 21st, 2007, 01:16 PM
Perryp:
Yes, take a look at my threads on this same forum section title:
Elements5 and Lightroom and Elements 5 and Lightroom II.
There you will find some answers and links to other forum threads that deal with the same subject.
I love the way Lightroom work, it gives you many options for organization not available on the Organizer. I'm glad I bought mine during Adobe intruduction of the program I got to save $100.00 bucks.
Codebreaker
May 21st, 2007, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't really say that Lightroom and Elements interface with each other rather that you can invoke the Elements Editor from within Lightroom.
The other feature that Lightroom has is the ability to import a Catalog from Elements but this doesn't work very well yet. Tag/Keyword hierarchy gets lost and if you've done any Write Tags to File commands you'll find the date order gets screwed.
In my opinion it's best to use either Lightroom or Elements to do the organising but not both as they maintain independent databases.
If you're a big user of RAW them Lightroom is 'lightyears' ahead of Elements. If you don't use RAW then it's doubtful that it will bring any benefits to you.
Colin
perryp
May 21st, 2007, 02:37 PM
thanks for your help
perryp
May 21st, 2007, 02:38 PM
thank you for you help
NickLewis
May 21st, 2007, 03:12 PM
Perryp:
Yes, take a look at my threads on this same forum section title:
Elements5 and Lightroom and Elements 5 and Lightroom II.
There you will find some answers and links to other forum threads that deal with the same subject.
I love the way Lightroom work, it gives you many options for organization not available on the Organizer. I'm glad I bought mine during Adobe intruduction of the program I got to save $100.00 bucks.What are the organisational features in Lightroom that are not available in Organiser?
I haven't downloaded the trial yet, but the impression I've had from viewing tutorials and the like is that the organisational facilities are similar to Organiser's, but not as good - no tag/keyword or collection hierarchies for example.
I'd rather formed the conclusion that I was going to have decide whether the benefit of the better RAW processing was worth the hit in the organisational functions.
Nick
Codebreaker
May 21st, 2007, 03:30 PM
The Organising features in Lightroom are similar to Elements and in some instances superior and in others not so good.
It does support Keyword Hierarchy and you can make Collections. One feature that is handy is the ability to attach Keywords when you download and it has a smart feature that fills in or suggests the Keyword as you type it. You can also make Keyword sets and Keyword Stamps although I haven't explored this facility yet.
You can set up Metadata templates which you can apply as you import, which allows you to add common information to the images such as Copyright, Creator, Location, etc.
One of the strange thing I found in LR is that there are some restrictions to what you can do when a Keyword ( or set of keywords) are selected. For instance you can't delete images. You can only do this if you have all the library selected or the folder which contains the image. What you have to do is mark the image for rejection, then go to all the library and delete the rejected images.
It's a different workflow but the more I use it the more I like it and I've virtuall abandoned Elements Organiser except for legacy images- which I'm slowly importing into LR.
Colin
Hector
May 21st, 2007, 04:10 PM
Well I found out I was not imagining that offer, that's good. Sorry I missed out.
FWIW, the B&H Photo web site sells Lightroom for $279.99, a whopping $20 discount. Sounds puny after missing out on the $100.00 discount.
Lightroom looks good and for 199.00 I would buy it; but not for $299.00. :mad:
Thanks everyone.
NickLewis
May 22nd, 2007, 03:44 AM
Colin: Thanks for that information. I shall have to set some time aside and download the trial.
I'd rather concluded that LR was not for me since I'd let the introductory offer slip by. But I've recently discovered that apparently I qualify for academic pricing because I'm registered with the OU, which opens up the decision again.
Nick
JEGavlas
June 17th, 2007, 12:13 AM
Hey you can still get this for $199. The last time I checked that was the selling price at Amazon. It would hurt to check it out.
I downloaded the trial version today. It seems to be a memory hog. Also there seem to be a fair number of bugs in it. Based on todays experience I would not buy it but I have 29 more days to try it and see if it changes my mine.
Joe
Littlefield
June 17th, 2007, 12:40 AM
LR is nice but I wish it could be as good as RSP with the smooth sliders .You would think with the technology Adobe has that they would not stick especially on curves sliders. LR's fill light and overall speed is not as good as RSP's either . I am glad I got it free from having RSP since it has some bugs . The
sharpening on RSP is awesome LR needs to get their default .
Good news is , it will have what camera raw ACR 4.1 has including
''The new version will have sharpening and a clarity tool as a free update.
Sharpening - Tool now has amount, radius, detail and masking. Only viewable at 1:1 but definitely at least as good as USM.
3) Clarity Slider - In addition to Saturation and Vibrance, there is a slider called "clarity". This looked really neat. It might have something to do with saturation but he described it as a large radius unsharp mask like thing and it looked like it really worked well on the image he showed us.''
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17003
Don
JEGavlas
June 17th, 2007, 01:12 AM
What is RSP?
Joe
Littlefield
June 17th, 2007, 01:36 AM
It was Raw Shooter Premium the raw converter that Adobe bought out from Pixmantec to have LR becuase if they had not RSP would have blown them away :)
Don
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