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dlvery
March 16th, 2007, 03:46 PM
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I am new to these products and have purchased PSE5/ Premier package. My question is that I want to create slideshows and have gotten a hand in PSE howto to at least get going, but as I read I see that I will need to use Premier for burning dvds. My questions are:
1) Is it best to create the full slideshow in PSE5 and transport only to burn the dvd or should I create and organize the slides/photos in PSE and then actually put the slideshow together in Premier? Are the appication offerings the same in both? If not, what are the differences?
2) One of the things that I cant seem to do in elements is to title onto a slide so that it appears to be scrolling line by line. Example would be:
John and Mary Smith (one or two seconds to read and then)
50 Golden Years (one or two seconds...)
1957 to 2007
I was able to duplicate slides and add additional verbiage to each one but it seems that it should be simpler to do.
Thanks in advance for your help,
ATR
March 16th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Regarding point (1)….Although Premiere Elements by itself is not marketed as a slideshow maker, you would want first to explore doing your slideshow completely in Premiere Elements. Many feel that the program gives you more control. Others prefer to use a non Adobe product for making slideshows. Forum is loaded with such comments. Then, try the Photoshop Elements 5.0/Premiere Elements 3.0 route and see the advantages/disadvantages first hand. Two features that often pop up at you are (1) Pan & Zoom (2) Fit Audio to Slides. Some find it easier to create slideshow in Photoshop Elements because they find it easier using Pan & Zoom there. Also, that program has a button for Fit Audio to Slides. On the other hand, the Pan & Zoom in Premiere Elements can be created with keyframing or presets. Some find that not so easy to deal with, although it is easier once you try it. See current Thread in this forum. Premiere Elements does not have a Fit Audio to Slides feature, but there are work arounds
Regarding point (2)…Chuck Engels has a video dealing with this specific aspect, probably now at http://www.muvipix.com. .I could walk you through that but, for now, a few of the key features (a) click on T Add Text, make sure where CTI is because inserts Title at CTI position automatically. (b) Adding Rolling…via Main Menu, Title Menu, Roll/Crawl Options (c) Render if red line above Title on Timeline.
Have you had time to check the list of Threads in the Premiere Elements Forum? Here is sampling which contains tips sprinkled throughout.
http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5253&highlight=Photoshop+Elements+Premiere+Slideshows
http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13632&highlight=Photoshop+Elements+Premiere+Slideshows
More to follow, if necessary.
ATR
n692bc
March 16th, 2007, 06:18 PM
From you other post in case you didn't see it...
As long as you can fit your slide show on a CD it will work fine out of elements. Adobe, those crafty folks look to see what you are copying it to. If is a DVD, no matter your file size, they won't let you copy it and give you and error message. Copy the same file to a CD and no error, copy to a USB memory card, no error. Got to love Adobe
There you have all I know
Ross
ATR
March 16th, 2007, 09:05 PM
n692bc
Apparently you have a procedure that works for you and meets your needs. I was just curious about what versions of Photoshop Elements and/or Premiere Elements you have. It sounds like you are currently creating slideshows in a Photoshop Elements and then creating a VCD all within Photoshop Elements???
Usually, users report better quality results for the Photoshop Elements slideshow with the DVD-VIDEO version of the slideshow which can not be gotten without an additional program, such as Premiere Elements or a comparable Brand X authoring software.
You mentioned some errors with your DVD attempts. Did you determine why that was happening in your situation? If you supply additional details, I could see if I could come up with some workarounds. But, if you are OK, we will not pursue this.
ATR
hfgerena
March 30th, 2007, 05:36 PM
Hi Dlvery;
For my personal experience I like both (PSE & PE) a lot to create slide shows, now it depends in what I want to do with my slide show to use one of them or some times both, if I want to create a slide show fast with pan/zoom, some text, sildes w/text, nice transitions and a good control of the video/audio I go for PSE, but if I want to do the same thing but I want to do some fancy things, like pict/pict, scrolling text. fade in/fade out text, brady bunch effects, have a better control of the transitions and slides using the powerfull keyframing, then I go for PE, like I told you it depends of what do want for your final product.
hymes
April 14th, 2007, 09:48 AM
Hello,
I am stuck.... I finally figured out how to create a slide show just using Premier Elements 3.0 and even have the transitions (default) added when I add all the images.
Then what I do is add some audio, say 2 or 3 songs (mp3) to the audio track area.
But in most cases, the audio is LONGER than the Slideshow (but it could be shorter as well). How do I make the VIDEO/Slideshow MATCH/FIT the Audio??? There is NO "Fit to Audio" button like in Photoshop Premier.
I tried "grouping", etc. but I can't find a way to stretch the whole slideshow equally (yes you can do one clip at a time) so that the clips and/or the transitions equally grow to match the audio???
Ok, and to be clear, my slideshow is a bunch of JPG files with Transitions, not a video stream....
Thanks so much,
Alan
ATR
April 14th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Alan,
What you want to look at is the Time Stretch Tool.
I have Premiere Elements 2, but I am almost sure that the 3 version has this feature as well.
Right click the audio. In the pop up list, select Time Stretch. The key to all this is to check off "Maintain Audio Pitch" in the Time Stretch dialog. Otherwise, your audio will sound "strange" after you fit the audio length to the video length. Shorten the audio to fit with the Time Stretch tool or the time slider in the dialog box. Experiment on test mini test run.
Let me know if that works for you.
ATR
videolady
April 27th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Personally, I create my slideshows in Photoshop Elements 5 mostly because the Pan and Zoom is so much easier. They are usually quite large projects too so I break one project up into smaller slideshows. As an example, Slideshow1 might be the person as a child. Slideshow2 is high school and college. Slideshow3 is marriage and family etc. I add the music to each 'mini' slideshow and make simple adjustments to individual slide lengths where necessary.
Then I import them into Premiere Elements 3 one 'mini' slideshow at a time where I fine tune the music, add transitions (because they are WAY better than the limited choices in Photoshop) add Pic in Pic etc, and burn from here.
Down the road, I may find it easier to create slideshows in Premiere 3 completely, but for now, this works pretty well.
ATR
April 27th, 2007, 06:05 PM
videolady
From your April 2007 date, you appear to be new to Photoshop Elements Techniques and maybe the Forums. Welcome.
Thank you for taking the time to share your Photoshop Elements/Premiere Elements experiences in this Forum. I just saw your comments here as well as in another Thread and am delighted at your choice to get involved.
ATR
videolady
April 27th, 2007, 06:59 PM
I appreciate the warm welcome. This whole forum thing is brand new to me and very interesting, helpful and exciting.
It looks like you help quite a few people here with your expertise, so I hope to learn from you! Thx again.
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