ya know what would be cool ?

[Jodi Frye]

a chain letter scrapbook page.

:shock: What ? You say ?

Someone starts with a blank page and adds something to it (one thing)...then sends it on to someone else here on the forum who would then add another image to it and that person would then send it on...and so on and so on.... we would have to keep it in a layered psd format and probably a zipped file for sending (we'd have to keep the image rather small at say no more than 700 X 700 pixels. After it's been around the world we can then display it in the gallery...Who's in ? Remember this could take a long while to actually be done.

If you think it's a dummy idea then that's fine...it was just a thought :lol:

[Kathy]

Jodi,

I think that it is a GREAT IDEA.

You can count me in.

Kathy

[MikeH]

Jodi,

Great idea... I'm in :)

Mike

[kerriann85]

Me Me Me!
but i've never actually ZIPped anything...... :?

[Wendy]

I'm in too ... but I will need "zipping" instructions :)

I'm a zipping novice !!


Wendy

[Jodi Frye]

it's called a compressed zipped folder on Windows>right click file>send to >compressed zipped folder. Then it's in a folder with a little zipper on it ;) Double click to open it.

Hmmmm, will mac users be able to open this ?

I haven't thought this through...obviously :oops:

[Wendy]

Jodi,

Ummmmm ... and if we can undo it. How do we send it to the next person ... I use Stuffit ...

I wonder if Ray knows the answer to this one ... I haven't seen him around for a while??


Wendy

[GaryK]

Jodi

Sounds fun.. whatever the rules are :lol: :lol:

Gary

[Patricia Heere]

Count me in too. What a neat idea.

Pat

[bwolford]

Love to do it! I'm zip enabled.

Brice

[lindajay]

Oh, please, let me play too! But I am on a Mac, so I guess we'll have to get this zip issue sorted out. Or . . . we could do two of them, a Mac one and a Windows one, and have the same "display" date.

--Linda

[Spyder]

Great idea but that zipped file is going to get huge, the psd's don't compress too well. A 1.9 mb psd I tried compressing at maximum went to only 1.5 mb and that had only one layer. Just thinking of the broadband challenged.
Do Macs have rar or some other compression programmes?

[drummermom]

I think it's a great idea!

Maybe keeping it in a webspace somewhere would work better than emailing...I'll think about that one, maybe there's an easy answer!

[triciadoll]

Count me in! In the scrapbooking world...this would be very similar to what is known as a "circle journal" where one person does a layout (traditional or digital) and sends it to the next person on the list. I think this would be very fun! :wink:

[Mary]

Count me in - I am zippy - fun! :)

[willpresley]

I am willing to share some of my webspace -- but I'll need help in setting up a page that allows uploading/downloading of the image so each person in turn gets to work with it.

I really like the idea and the webspace would solve the problem with Mac vs Windows compression techniques.

If anyone has web development experience we can set up email to work on this project.

Another way would be to get PET Folks to give us some space as they already have mastered the upload/download process.

What do you think?

[mayva]

Count me in..........(not sure I know how to "zip" but I am willing to learn) :D

Anna

[Pauline]

This sounds like fun. We could make it about our family so everyone can learn about each other! (guess I need a reeeeealy good picture of myself :wink: ) And once again I've learned something! Didn't know anything about a zip file.

Maybe we can just have a page set up on the galleries if they would be so kind to let us. Since the limit is 20, perhaps we could have 2.......the mac vs the pc? This isn't a war, but it would be fun to see who works on what.

Jodi.........now see what you've started??? :shock:

[Wendy]

Pauline,

It doesn't quite work like that ... the idea is that each persons adds something to the initial image and it changes as it moves on. So there isn't really a theme to it ...

Wendy

[Jodi Frye]

so sorry to have fallen behind on this thread...busy doing non pc stuff...anyways, someone made the point that the file would become too large to start mailing to each other and I think they are right. Again, I hadn't thought this through. Psd file sizes add up very quickly. I thought it was a neat idea but we may have to figure out a different way to do this.

[Spyder]

Maybe we could flatten the image before passing it on, someone adds their layer, tweaks it then flattens it. It might keep the size down.
I have 30mb webspace and only too happy to provide it for file space whatever the decision is.

[GaryK]

Another thought, would be to have someone "assemble" a bunch of images sent by each person. It would be a ton of work for the poor sod.
Maybe we could each have an element to get.

Hey, along those lines. We could each be assigned an object and post it to our gallery and everybody can make their own using the objects.

Not quite as fun as the original idea but maybe a reasonable workaround.

Gary.

[Wendy]

Hi Jodi,

I have been trying to think of a workaround but nothing really works :(


Wendy

[Pauline]

Okay, I get it now. I was thinking it was an individual page for some reason and there would be a bunch posted, not one that everyone adds too. :oops:

[Lynn Dryer]

What about setting up a new gallery type location and everyone adds a page to the gallery(2)?

[Kathy]

What about setting up a grid overlay something like this?

http://www.scrapbook-bytes.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43181&cat=9397

An example using the gird:

http://www.scrapbook-bytes.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43241&cat=all&what=allfields&name=emurph2

First person adds a photo within the grid and sends it on to the next person who adds another and so on. This particular grid is 11 by 11 and holds 49 "photos". When the page is filled ...... start a new grid.

Just a thought.

Kathy

[willpresley]

I'd like to suggest we work towards getting webspace for the composite effort of everyone involved -- the PSD file will download to a MAC or PC (or should) without any problems and then when an individual has added their bit to the image -- they upload it to the chosen site. Then we would only need to set up something to control who has the picture at that moment in time -- not too much a problem as we can use a forum topic to managed the file access.

This would prevent several people accessing the file simultaneously and then posting their upon another etc.

[willpresley]

This creative idea of Jodi's is getting closer to a real creative experience. I am working out the details of uploading/downloading a file by a set name -- what I'll need is a volunteer or two to help check out the process -- to debug if necessary.

Looking for a MAC and PC User. Taking volunteers starting now. :roll:

[Spyder]

Guinea pig at the ready Sir!
By the way there's loads of free cgi scripts out there to help you with uploading files etc. Let me know if you need a hand.

[Wendy]

Sorry ... I won't be around :(


Wendy

[lindajay]

I'll be out of town through Friday night, but will be back and ready to be a guinea pig by Sat. a.m. I am a Mac user. I'd be happy to help out.

--Linda

[kerriann85]

Will, I can sure help out. I'm on PC with Cable connection. Limited (ok, no) ability at FTP or HTML (and TGIF means very little to me so I can do things on weekends too.)
I'd probably be good at evaluating how clear the instructions are? :)

[bwolford]

If you still need more victims, er, volunteers, I'm here.

Brice

[willpresley]

OK - we got enough folks to test drive this project. I'm still struggling with the download script but will work on it tonight -- until I get it done right. Then we'll begin testing to see what else will need to be done. SO hang in there and I'll call on you one at a time to debug the process.

Yeah--I'll probably need help with the instructions too. My understanding isn't necessarily what other folks understand. So thanks for all the offers and I'll be in touch once I get the download script in place.

[Jodi Frye]

Will, you are an amazing individual !! ...but please don't sweat it too much..if ya can't get it to run right it's no biggie....we will figure something else out. Afterall, we are all pretty creative with thought process around here ;) ( speaking for myself only after a good night's sleep :) )

[willpresley]

Spyder - do you know much about PHP scripts? I looked into CGI but couldn't find any for downloading (but I didn't look at all possibilities since they exceed a million)

Jodi -- it's a challenge for me and is right up my alley to contribute to a good project. So I'm learning as I go and enjoying the project -- I can't wait to see the final project if we ever get to end of the people wanting to work on it. But I've set the file limit to 16MB to give us room to grow.

[Jodi Frye]

Will, well that sounds fanfreekintastic !! I'm happy this is good for you as it's going to be good for many. Use the force Luke..I mean Will :)

[lulu]

Please add me too....I'd love to participate!
Lulu

[willpresley]

OK, so I got 1 GB of webspace to use (nice real estate, undeveloped at the moment). I contacted Technical Help because I could upload and download a file that was small, but we aren't talking 2 MB or smaller.

I will arrange for migration to a server that doesn't impose a 2 MB limit on uploads -- then we can get moving on this project. I expect to have this accomplished by my birthday -- the 16th of August.

Finally found a script that does allow upload/download/file delete options which is what we'll need. Now I just need to get moved onto a server that accommodates our aspirations of a composite by multiple artists.

[jazzfisher]

I wanna play when everything gets set up! :)

[Jodi Frye]

Isn't he amazing ??

[jazzfisher]

My Idol!!! :wink:

[Mary]

He is even more than amazing - maybe awesome - and an August birthday guy!

[jazzfisher]

Jodi,
Happy Belated Bday!!! :lol:
Today is my Sister's & Nephew's Bday!!!

[Jodi Frye]

Thanks Sherry !

August Bdays are very popular around these parts !

[GaryK]

Sherry

Your sis and nephew are in good company :wink:

Gary.

[jazzfisher]

Gary,
HB to you too!! :D :D :D

[willpresley]

GOOD NEWS Y'ALL -- my web host pushed me up to 50 MB for uploading via PHP. I've tested a 26 MB file upload and download and it worked fine.

Now I need the four volunteers for testing to help out. I'd like to suggest that you announce when you're finished via this forum.

Spyder is first, then lindajay, then kerriann85, and then bwolford. I'm posting the URL for testing only at this time but I expect to have good feedback and ready to rock n roll come the 16th.



There will be a file that I created trying my hand with the Wacom Tablet tutorial -- not much but it is definitely something that can stand a little work. It is the only file and one thing we must do is rename the file in the box for that purpose and increase it by a value of 1; so test00, then would need to become test01, test 02, etc.

There is the ability to delete files as well and the older (smaller number) files can be deleted to keep the list short and manageable.

If you have more questions PM me.

[Jodi Frye]

http://jasm.smugmug.com/photos/11967107-Ti.gif

I've said it before and i'll say it again...You are amazing !!!

Better than him !

[Mary]

You are amazing - do you realize how few people can plan and execute like you have? Thank you for all you do!!!

[lindajay]

Lindajay, volunteer number 2, reporting for duty, sir! :lol:

This is going to be such fun! Go for it, Spyder. Let's play!

--Linda

[Spyder]

Wheeee! Off to play right now.

[Spyder]

Oh nice, 160kps download speed. Good server.
Now to muck up the image, err modify it.

[Spyder]

Ok Will, it worked perfectly.
I added a layer, leaving the layer intact so it increased in size considerably. Did you want that or for the image to be flattened before uploading it?
That would reduce the size somewhat.

[willpresley]

Spyder -- since we are testing we won't outgrow a 40 MB file size limit -- so leaving the layer intact for now is the way to go. I think we'll be able to leave layers intact for the main picture as well.

The only reason I didn't have layers in the file is because I flattened it when experimenting with uploads. A shame because it had layers quite like the Wacom Tutorial.

Any feed back you have let me know -- and Thanks for helping with the test.

[Spyder]

No probs, just wanted to be sure in case file size was important right now.
Happy to help.

[willpresley]

Lindajay time to play....

[lindajay]

Yep, I have been at work all day, and have an appointment this evening. So . . . I'll get this done late tonight. By the way, I tried posting it earlier, and had a problem. I'll try again tonight, though, so hopefully the problem was just because I was in a hurry.

--Linda

[GaryK]

Ok

When you guys are done playing, let those of us with a far more serious outlook have a go :lol: :lol:

You guys are fabulous. Lets us know when you have it all figured out so we can get in on the game. I have been following the posts and don't have a flippin' clue what some of them meant :lol:

Gary

[Pauline]

me either Gary, so you aren't alone. :(

[willpresley]

Back on page 1 Jodi had a great idea -- and through thinking and reading it was determined that we need a central depository for the file so each person can access it in turn and then post their results.

At the present time we are testing the process to fine tune the final fun of building one File contributed to by many. Sort of out of many - one

I have my own domain with 1 GB of space and 20 GB of traffic per month so I set it up for this thread and everyone who want to participate. I had to get past the problem of file limits and my web host accommodated me by raising the limit from 2MB to 50 MB -- enough for us to work with.

Thinking about this I would like to suggest that DIAL-UP players get to go first as the file will get huge and then DSL/CABLE will definitely be needed to avoid an all-nighter of upload/downloading.

[lindajay]

Okay everyone, my post (test 02) is out there now, so we're ready for our next volunteer! I had some problem uploading earlier in the day. But tonight everything went very smoothly. I think it MAY have been "operator malfunction." :oops: :oops:

Looking forward to seeing what happens next with the image.

--Linda

[jazzfisher]

Gary
Same here... :?
Just don't leave us out of the loop.....


Let us know when it's time to play

[willpresley]

Kerriann85 it is your turn. Let me know if you have any problems -- I'll be around early today but then in the afternoon I have to go somewhere to help get 2 computers operational again. So I won't be home until about 7 p.m. CDT.

When Kerriann85 and Bwolford have tested the site we'll be ready to open the game to all the group.

[kerriann85]

I did it!!
Had to do it from Internet Explorer instead of netscape but that was ok. (Downloads like that have always been a problem for me in Netscape so I wasn't rattled.)
No problems, pretty self explanitory.
I think this will work just fine. It's pretty cool. Thanks for setting up the site Will!!
Next one up! :D

Questions to whoever gets to make the "Rules"... Jodi?
Are we going to allow more than one layer per person?
Are we going to be allowed to actually modify a layer that existed before or only build on top?
Are we not gonna have any rules whatsoever and just go for it?

Are we gonna have some kind of list of people and go in order like we did with the test?

Don't necessarily need answers right now, just throwing out some thoughts.

[Jodi Frye]

Have a splitting headache at the moment...must go check Will's set up before I go further with answers on thi...I hate headaches !!!

[Jodi Frye]

I can't check it out...doors are locked :(

[kerriann85]

Jodi, you have to copy/paste the url.... did you try that?

[Jodi Frye]

yup, i downloaded test 3 just to see how it was set up but get an error message when i tried to open it...something like ' Will has locked the door to this file...you are just too late to get in...' :lol:

[kerriann85]

ahhhhhh. I was wondering if I'd screwed up something. But I had dowlnoaded my submission again after I posted it with no problems. He must be tweaking or something.

One thought......how worried should we (Will) be about someone outside our happy little family stumbling onto this and uploading something malicious? I'm assuming a virus/work/trojan/scarything could move around this way. (Hate to even bring it up.....)

[Jodi Frye]

Oh Shit ! Glad you brought it up...you are absolutely right. That would be a disaster ! Well, I'm set up like Fort Knox here but I still don't trust things. I know....could the site be password protected ??

[kerriann85]

did i just make you headache worse?

If there was a password it could maybe go out in the pm's Is there a way to pm a buch of people at one time?

Otherwise maybe the webhost has protection that prevents that kind of thing from being uploaded but I don't know the mechanics of all that....

[Jodi Frye]

Well, let's see what Will says about this...meanwhile i have to go get stuff done today...been on the computer long enough....as usual ;) Yes, my headache got a little worse.... :roll:

[willpresley]

As for file uploads -- I'll modify the script to allow only a PSD file, which is why we need it anyway.

so that should help with security. Still the delete function could be misused but I don't think we have that kind of personality on the forum.

[kerriann85]

Ok, take two. I wondered why the file size was smaller than the one before it.

Restricitng to psd files sounds good. Should the delete function be restricted to only one person to come clean house every so often? Or did we need to be able to delete the one before as we added a new one? (Even if it wasn't maliciousd it could turn into a big ooops.)

[Jodi Frye]

well i don't know what i did wrong...I downloaded the latest 'test 4' and added something and then uploaded it...thought i did anyways. The taskbar completely filled as it uploaded but maybe I didn't wait long enough....anyways, i redownloaded the file just to see if it stuck and it didn't...my layer was not there. I'm an idiot.

[willpresley]

No, you're not an idiot -- this is a test process to find quirks that need to be stated to the group when we go final.

I deleted the older versions -- so only test04 is currently on the site.

When you upload let it go until you see the file name posted on the page -- that will guarantee that it was a good upload.

[willpresley]

BWOLFORD -- it is your turn to tackle this test process -- let me know hot it goes for you. My simple pumpkin wacom has become quite a picture. :lol:

[jazzfisher]

Will,
Thank you for working so hard on this.
Please make it "idiot proof" cause I'll need it. :D

[bwolford]

I don't know why I am not getting auto notify... I just stumbled onto this by chance right when it was my turn!!!

Brice

[bwolford]

NOT!!!

I assumed that since we had an image with a neon pumpkin, giant fuzzy worm (aka catepillar), a "roo" it must need a US Coast Guard Cutter on it's way out to duty from Key West.

I don't know why, it just seemed to call for a ship...

I didn't read the directions obviously because I couldn't UPLOAD until I DELETED the image with the same name. When I uploaded the image it shrunk by 1MB despite my added layer. Could it be that I turned Maximize Compatibility off. Did I do a no no? I can reload if I need to...

Who's next?

Brice

P.S. It's obviously not idiot proof if I've done something wrong :roll:

[kerriann85]

Um Brice. I think you were suppose to "rename" to the next nember down the line ?
Yours should have been 05.

But it's fine. I just opened it. Nice ship. Makes me wanna go on a cruise.

(wonder if I could convince hubby I wanna cruise for my 15th wedding anniversary in a couple weeks. But I wanna go by myself.)

[Pauline]

I hope the rest of us get to see this little experiment when you are done! :lol:

[willpresley]

OK for those who are interested there are 3 files -- pumpkin is the original one I created using the Wacom Tutorial, Test05 is the final result of the limited members helping test the process.

Now I'll go back through the posts and see what I could have done better to facilitate the use of a primitive script that leaves the page open to little errors that can be BIG FRUSTRATIONS when one is dealing with uploading a file.

The download process seems to go fast, but upload seems to be slow and if you don't wait for the file name to appear then we get an incomplete file that won't load into PSE-3

Use this url to download copies for your review

It is the only way to get to this page as I don't have a home page built at this time and it secures the page to only the people reading this thread.

[willpresley]

Calling all dial-up players -- send me a PM if you are on dial-up and want to be early in the real action. The reason I suggest this is that the file will grow to 6 or more MB in short order and I remember dial-up takes some time to download/upload files. If you wait until we are over 10 MB then it could take up to a half hour to do either process.

[Jodi Frye]

I think I got it this time !! It helps to be patient ;) ... I think...anyways i uploaded and renamed it to test05...hopefully my ' Hi Will...or Hello Will' is included.

[Jodi Frye]

Yes, good idea Will !! I think you should start a new thread tho...just in case...we don't want anyone to be left out.

[willpresley]

YYYYEEEESSSSSS!!!!

I'm quite thrilled with the testing -- now I know how to write directions for people so they can upload without too much frustration.

Thanks Spyder, LindaJay, Kerriann85, Bwolford (Brice), and Jodi :lol: :lol: :D :D :wink: :)

[lindajay]

Will -- Thank YOU for your time and creativity in setting this experiment up! It was great fun.

However, I just went back out to the web page, and of the three images that are there, I can now only open the "pumpkin" one. The test 04 and test 05 just give me a message that they were not saved as composite images, or some such. After I uploaded my "test 02", I didn't get to see the other changes and was hoping I could go look at them :cry:

--Linda

[willpresley]

That is strange -- I downloaded each one and didn't get an error, but hey! I'll check it out again. Stuff we need to iron out before we get into the big party of creativity.

[lindajay]

Oh DUH! I was just double-clicking on the file name (which, incidentally WORKS on "pumpkin") instead of clicking on the down-arrow. My mistake. :oops:

--Linda

[willpresley]

Well that is OK - cuz I just used every browser I have installed on my system to do the downloads (using the arrow) and it works fine in IE6, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape 7.2 [Don't have 8.0 because it doesn't play well with the rest of the computer stuff, so it was discarded], Opera, Avant, Ace Explorer, and Maxthon.

I do think if some is using 8.0 on an XP machine it might be unstable as well.

Which browser(s) do you use?

[willpresley]

I've started a new thread to open the project up to others who read the scrapbook forum. It is
http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3738

[Jodi Frye]

Someone mentioned this and I meant to add something to it but forgot...
If all those who plan to join our collage party would turn off the ' Maximize PSD file Compatibility' ...we would be able to keep the file sizes down considerably.

Under preferences>saving files> Maximize PSD file Compatibility> set it to 'never'. Leaving it on adds a flattened composite image to the layered psd file so that the file can be opened in other programs that don't recognize layers...we don't need that.

[lindajay]

Will, I'm using Safari as a browser. And as long as I do the smart thing and hit the arrows, it's working just fine.

--Linda

[Pauline]

I just downloaded all three pictures no problem. Scary looking project though!! I think when we set it up there will have to be a "rules" page to refer to (ie, that maximizing thing Jodi mentioned. ) Not removing anyone else's work, etc.

[willpresley]

Linda -- Thanks for the feedback on the browser.

Pauline -- a few posts back I put a link to the new thread that contains the guidelines -- check it out and then let me know here if you think something needs to be changed.

Kinda want to keep that thread reserved for the project itself. Thanks, I appreciate all the feedback I get -- I'm so excited about this that I have been at the computer all day -- like a mother hen setting on eggs. :roll:

[Pauline]

Found it Will and it looks good to me! Should be a lot of fun to see what we come up with. I guess the "original" picture should be posted with the final image too so that we can see where we started. :D

[willpresley]

I agree -- so I should stash a copy of the begining somewhere safe and then bring it back online once we have a completed project.

I think this may be something we'll enjoy doing more than once.

[bwolford]

I missed the need to rename, but you would think I could figure that out since I was the 5th person to touch it and the one I downloaded was test04... My suggestion would be a short list of steps included as it is passed from person to person... Same X steps in every handoff...

Even this idiot could figure that one out. :)

Brice

[willpresley]

I think that would work out fairly well and copy/paste will do nicely to keep the instructions consistent. Thanks for the feedback.

[kerriann85]

Does it not work to put the instructions on the page where the download/upload is? Even a "click here for instructions" kind of thing? Since everyone has to go to the same place to get the pix......

[lindajay]

Will,
Just wondering . . . would it be feasible, in the instructions, to have the most recent person first save their layered .psd file, and then save the previous one as a .jpg for web (small file size, and deleting the large, layered .psd), so that we could go back and see the entire history, as it evolves? I know, currently, only .psd files can be saved, but could that be changed? Maybe no one else would be interested in seeing the evolution, step-by-step, but to me it would be fun.

--Linda

[Pauline]

I think Will said in a previous post that he would delete each previous person's file, so perhaps instead of deleting he could save to jpg. I too think it would be fun to see it evolve. Maybe we're asking too much though of this poor guy who has put so much work into this! :lol:

[willpresley]

Kerriann85 -- I tried editing the page (it is a script I got off the internet, and I couldn't figure out how to get a link there, but decided to do an instruction page and link the download script to it). I'll change the links in the forum to reflect this update.

Lindajay -- I like your line of thinking so in my instruction page I indicate that no deleting is done -- this will give me the chance to convert the images as they are done -- but what do you think about me posting them to pixentral in place of placing them on the website; I'm not sure how you'll want to view them -- if sequentially then leaving the pics on my website would be best.

Pauline -- this is what the test phase is all about seeing what can and can't be done or finding an alternative if need be -- managing the files for converting to PSD web-saved won't be too much for me to manage. It gives my web page a purpose while I develop my site.

[willpresley]

I've changed the link to connect with an instruction page. From the instruction page there are 2 links that will get to the upload download page.

Check it out and let me know what you think, thanks.

[Kathy]

Will,

That is stupendous!!!!! :)

You are one awesome guy. :wink:

Kathy

[Wendy]

hi Will,

I haven't had a chance to read the whole of this thread yet ... but I will check it out this afternoon :)

Sounds really good

Wendy

[willpresley]

Welcome back Wendy -- I know there is a lot to catch up with but I think we have Jodi's idea ready to go now.

[Jodi Frye]

Wendy's back ??? Hey Wendy !! Hope you had a great vacation....Now it's my turn...I'm going to go climb the Swiss Alps tomorrow !!! No, I'm not...:( No vacation for me :( Hope you had a fab time and well deserved rest ! Will be waiting to see some pics in your gallery :)

[Wendy]

hi Jodi,

Oh I took lots of images ... first at my youngest stepson's wedding then afterwards whilst we were on holiday.

Lots of editing to do but may get a chance to post some images in a week or two. :)


Wendy

[willpresley]

I've combined the original and final test images and posted them to pixentral so here is the link if you haven't already viewed them or just want to see them at the same time.

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?pic=1t5JlQZFlVKKTJlVPbTiVqgOfLKq01

[Jodi Frye]

Oh dear,,,that was just a test people !!! We didn't even try to make it look OK...it's mud !!!

[Wendy]

Jodi,

Looks like it could be a fun thing to do :)


Wendy

[Pauline]

Yes and I see you had a real theme going. :twisted: Just not too sure what it was :shock:

[Jodi Frye]

we were just testing the procedure....not our creativity ;)

[kerriann85]

Escuse me? I want a framed copy of that over my fireplace, thank you.

:lol:

[Spyder]

I have to say that Skippy is really annoyed that he got left outside of the frame! It's ok Skip....no really....come baaaack!

[Wendy]

Spyder,

He was just making a run for it :lol: :lol:


Wendy

[Spyder]

He he! I'm glad you said it and not me, look out for the angry villagers knocking on your door with flaming torches!!
:lol:

[Wendy]

Hi Spyder ... :)

And how is the weather today in sunny Australia? ... here in the UK its early afternoon and far too hot for me!!


Wendy

[Spyder]

It's still on the chilly side here Wendy, around 18 - 20c day temp and 8c night time. Not long till spring though.
Just got through a wet week and looking forward to some sun for the next. It won't be long before we go 4 or 5 months without rain so we lap it up while it's here.