RAW plugin?

[KYJOE]

I have downloaded the camera raw plugin 3.6, but I still cannot open Nikon D80 NEF files.

Should the file open firectly into PSE 5, or should I have to convert the entire folder using DNG converter?

I'm confused...

Thanks for any assistance!

[Hatter]

You should be able to open each individual .nef file into PSE using the normal file > open command. PSE will detect that it's a raw file and open it using Camera Raw.
Version 3.6 does support the D80. Are you sure you've installed it correctly?
(Select 'Help > About Plug-in > Camera Raw' from the menu to check.)

Gareth

[Codebreaker]

Some folks have reported a problem with the Nikon RAW S/W being installed and preventing Elements from working with Nikon files. I think the solution has been to uninstall the Nikon S/W.

You may want to search this forum for more details.

Colin

[KYJOE]

I see the camera RAW 3.6 when I do the above suggestion.

The window that opens the NEF allows me to change the RAW settings and save as a DNG, which then cannot be opened within PSE.

Can an image be manipulated within PSE as a RAW file? Or do I have to somehow save it as a JPG to PP it in Elements? If so what is the benefit of Shooting Raw other than changing WB and exposure?

[frblock]

Hi there,

I just purchased PSE5 last night and installed the Camera Raw 3.6. I too shoot a Nikon D80 and the images open just fine using the File > Open commands. You'll get a Camera Ram dialog first and then click another button to load it into the editor.

You need to replace the existing "Camera Raw.8bi" file with the 3.6 version. Typically the file is inthe following path:
"C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 5.0\Plug-Ins\File Formats\Camera Raw.8bi"

No conversion required!

HTH!

Kind regards - Fred

[KYJOE]

Hi there,

I just purchased PSE5 last night and installed the Camera Raw 3.6. I too shoot a Nikon D80 and the images open just fine using the File > Open commands. You'll get a Camera Ram dialog first and then click another button to load it into the editor.

You need to replace the existing "Camera Raw.8bi" file with the 3.6 version. Typically the file is inthe following path:
"C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 5.0\Plug-Ins\File Formats\Camera Raw.8bi"

No conversion required!

HTH!

Kind regards - Fred

Thanks Fred! Now, what "other button" loads the image in editor?

I can get that window but still can't work with it in PSE.

I don't have any Nikon SW that will work with a D80 NEF.

[Hatter]

I see the camera RAW 3.6 when I do the above suggestion.

Good. Sorry for doubting you, but it's best to check the simple things first. :)

The window that opens the NEF allows me to change the RAW settings and save as a DNG, which then cannot be opened within PSE.

DNG is Adobe's "common" raw format. It will re-open in Camera raw, not PSE.
What you need to do is click the "Open" button rather than "Save". The image will then open directly in PSE.

Can an image be manipulated within PSE as a RAW file? Or do I have to somehow save it as a JPG to PP it in Elements? If so what is the benefit of Shooting Raw other than changing WB and exposure?

After adjusting white balance & exposure etc, you open it directly from Cameras Raw as above.

Gareth

[frblock]

Hi again,

The "Open" button at th bottom-right had corner of the Camera RAW dialog. It's title bar displays the camera model and some EXIF data. AFter you click "Open" the image is loaded into the editor.

Another item to note is that the Open dialog (File > Open from the Editor) will display a preview of the selected image (for you D80's NEF's) ONLY if the 3.6 is installed properly. I noticed that this preview did not work with the v3.5 that shipped with PSE5.

HTH!

Regards - Fred

[KYJOE]

Thanks again Fred, yes I get the preview and am able to do stuff..... Now just to learn the software!!

Thanks so much for "y'alls" help!


Joe

[frblock]

Well Joe,

Happy to hear you have it all working now. I didn't have any trouble with Capture NX and PSE5 on the same machine but hey, I'm removing Capture NX and using PSE5 anyway. I couldn't afford the full blown Photoshop and most likely do not need all it can do (for now). After finding this forum I though it would be worth the try. There's a lot of folks in here willing to share. That's an awesome blessing!

So I'm off to learn too! Starting now...!

Regards - Fred

[PaulH]

I just caught this thread kinda' late.... :)

I use the Original Capture (which will not do D80 files) and still learning NX.

Just be aware that PS or PSE does not recognize any of your in-camera settings except white balance. Only the Nikon software will.

So if you use a custom curve, or contrast, sharpening, etc. it is all ignored.

I find the best way if you are using PS is to set all your in camera settings to neutral.

The reason I say this is IF you get very good images with little work needed on them, you may find yourself having to do more in PS.

FWIW - I often open in capture - do nothing then have capture open it in PSE (or PS).

[frblock]

Hi Paul,

So if I understand (I'm new to digital), RAW images (i.e., Nikon NEF's) "are" affected by the in-camrea white balance "only" (or not at all)? Also - if I'm shooting JPEG's, aren't all the in-camrea settings affecting the images. Of course for the "money shots" I'd be shooting RAW only.

I need the best book on the market it seems to get caught up. I want to shoot more than I edit but the editing part seems to be a fun element since I never had a color darkroom (I did do B&W many years ago).

Thanks for jumping in!

Regards - Fred :)

[Codebreaker]

The idea of RAW is as its name suggests - you just get the RAW data from the sensor. Any in camera settings such as Picture Styles don't affect this. What happens with the likes of Canon and Nikons S/W is that they pick up the settings and apply them to the image in the PC not the RAW file. Photoshop is not aware of these settings and hence they get ignored.

JPEGS on the other hand are processed in camera and have any picture styles, sharpening etc applied before delivery to the PC.

Colin

[frblock]

Hi Colin...

You explained it in "plain english." Thanks a mint! I see a lot of your posts in this forum and look forward to being part of the family as I live and learn.

I truly enjoy the "shoot" but see the need learn to edit the digital images.

Happy I found this forum.

So - Will anyone reveal the leading book or two regarding "Elements 5". I'm in the market for reading material. I'll supply the images to the "lab."

Thanks all and Happy Holdays!

Regards - Fred