Printing on vellum

[Georgette Grossman]

I have an Epson RX500 injet printer and would like to print a stained glass creation on vellum and then frame between 2 pieces of glass. Has anyone done this? If so,

what brand Vellum did you use, and
what paper definition did you use?


TIA,
gg

[Georgette Grossman]

I only found vellum (who knows if it was even made for inkjet printers) at AC Moore today. I tried printing, but the image was not very crisp at all. For now the lily is printed on non-translucent paper. Oh well...
gg

[Wendy]

Georgette ...

I was hoping that Jodi would see this thread ... not sure if she has tried Vellum but she is great on printing out :)

Wendy

[GaryK]

Georgette

How about a tranparency/overhead. I know its not vellum but it might come out crisper.
I'm not sure what vellum is :D but you may want to try a lower quality setting. Sometimes on non absorbent paper too much ink (high quality) looks worse.
Something else to consider to keep costs down. Cut your bigger sheets down to a smaller size that your printer will handle. That way you can experiment with different paper/quality settings and save on paper and ink.

I'm thinking vellum is sort of a plasticy frosted paper??:o

[TonyW]

I'm not sure what vellum is :D

Gary: If you really want to know take a look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellum

Actually any small animal works - the word is derived from veal

Seriously though your suggestion of using overhead transparency is a good one. I've used it with my Epson and it worked fine. I did find some translucent vellum once that was coated for inkjets (it does have to be coated) and it worked but wasn't that great, I can't remember the name and it was very expensive :(

Tony

[Georgette Grossman]

Many thanks all... the transparency idea is a great one!

Epson lists it as one of its paper choices and, online, I found Epson Inkjet Transparencies, 8.5" x 11", 30 Sheets, Part #: S041064. A bit pricy, though... $45.99. Would love to find a few sheets to try; I guess I will have to decide how much I am willing to pay to experiment. :)

gg

[NRiceDesigns]

GG,
This link may help
http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/344493-0-0-225-121.html?jumpid=ex_R602_UAG_go/search-hho-google-ep-printonvellum

I have a Canon i9900 & tested several brands to to get one that works best for my printer.

Let us know how it goes for you.

[NMarti]

Nina
The wheels are spinning...:D

personalized candles for baby showers, weddings, anniversaries, make candles to match your curtains, bedspread etc....

Thanks for the link.

[GaryK]

Georgette

If you like the tranparancy idea.. try going to a copy shop and see if they will sell you one or two. I'm sure it will cost more per unit but you should be able to get a few for a few dollars.

You could also just ask a few friends and see if anyboday has a couple to try.

[GaryK]

Tony

Thanks for that .. I'll start making some next week :D

[msmack]

There is a new product out called InkAid. You can coat almost any paper and the inkjet ink will work.

Check it out.

Merrill

[NMarti]

My husband brought me some standard architect vellum home last night to try this out and I cut an 8x10 piece from the full sheet (24 x 36) and gave it a test print. First I did a small corner to see what would happen with the ink and it did just fine so I tried a small picture. I set my paper type to transparency and quality to draft and it printed just great! I then did another one where I made a 9 in wide by 3 in high box, filled it with a pattern, added a picture in the middle and printed, cut it out and wrapped around a candle, lit it and it became an illuminated photo. Worked perfect! Thanks for the link Nita.

[Wendy]

Nancy ...

Oh that is great news :)

Wendy

[BettyC]

Thank you, from me too, Nita! And to you also, Nancy, for trying it & reporting your excellent results!

[Mary Lynne]

I found a great place online to buy vellum. It's paperandmore.com
They have all kinds of high quality vellum in various colors and translucencies. The great thing is that you can buy a sample pack for $4.99, which in itself might be enough for your project. I bought a pack of 100 sheets, which they custom cut for a small fee. I used it in two different HP printers to make the vellum overlays for my daughter's wedding invitations. In both cases the fonts were dark, crisp and beautiful. I was careful to sit there (yes, for all 150 pieces) and pull each one out as it came off the printer. I think if you allow them to stack they'll smear. But they dried quickly, and I played with shuffling them with no smearing or loss of quality. I don't see why you wouldn't have similar results! The stained glass idea sounds cool!

[NMarti]

Mary Lynne
I also printed my daughters on vellum but I was using a laser printer for that. I also sat there and pulled each and every one of 150 off as they printed because even the laser tended to smear if you didn't. They worked great! I just had not tried on an inkjet before. The nice thing is I have some of the vellum left over. I has pearlized hearts stamped around the edges. Maybe I can do something for them with it on the inkjet. :confused: Wonder if it is the same type of vellum for inkjets as for laser? Wait - I have an idea - make them a suncather on their wedding paper of a favorite wedding photo and then enclose it in a nice stained glass border. Off to figure that one out.;)

[kayser]

This sounds like a really nice idea for a variety of gifts. I guess I'll add this to my list!

[trola]

I go to my local office store (not one of the big chains) and I can buy inkjet transparency by the sheet.
I bought a package @
http://www.filmsourceinc.net/ink_jet_printers_65_ctg.html
Stock Number: 980968
20 sheets for about $13.00

[ScraPerfect]

Sounds like you might want to check out "The Perfect Printing Pouch". If you set the printer for transparency, it will put out a minimum of ink which will dry faster BUT won't be as bold or dark.

Typically, when printing on vellum or other shiny surfaces, ink can smear and takes a long time to dry. Ink on ribbon and other absorbent surfaces tends to bleed. To combat this, The Perfect Printing Pouch allows users to get flawless ink application by simply wiping the surface with the pouch before printing. The Perfect Printing Pouch works by releasing a fine coating of powder that bonds the ink to the paper. The fine powders also contain a drying agent so the ink dries almost instantly. The result is no more smearing, bleeding or resisting.

The new Strap•n•Tap is perfect for large projects, such as printing wedding invitations and baby announcements. Both The Original Perfect Printing Pouch and the new Strap•n•Tap treat a wide range of surfaces and can be used with a variety of inks.

Here's part of the review from
Scrapbook Answers 4 STAR REVIEW June/July 2006 :

"No inkjet owner should be without this little felt ravioli-shaped pouch. If you have tried-and failed- to print on slick papers such as vellum, metallics, or glossy cover stock, you know the frustrations: The ink smears, takes forever to dry, and prints unevenly on textured papers.

We tested the pouch on vellum, metallic paper (usually incompatible with inkjet printers!), and glossy coated paper. Before the pouch, the vellum printed without smearing, but the color was faint and the edges of the text were fuzzy. After using the pouch, printouts were sharp and clear, as if printing on plain paper. Without the pouch, both the metallic paper and the glossy coated paper produced smeary prints, and the glossy paper was still wet after five minutes. Again, we used the Perfect Printing Pouch and were pleased with the results. The prints came out smear free, and both papers dried within 10 seconds."

(http://www.scraperfect.com for more information.)

[msbrad]

I've use a bunch of vellum over the past several years. Usually I prefer the Canon printer (300) and just leave it on normal, without much regard to changing the paper type. And it has been great

If I use the hp7960...then I need to make sure to go draft, and tone the ink supply down.

I actually prefer the canon for it as it is an easier feed, and this paper can be delicate.
m

[NMarti]

but won't that powder clog the print heads? :confused:

[Soileauj]

Georgette, I have printed CAD drawins in color on Staedtler velum and it came out fine. I bought the large tablet (11 x 17) and cut the heets to 8.5 x 11.

[ScraPerfect]

If you want to learn about a product which stops bleeding, resisting and smearing and dries the ink almost instantly, you could google The Perfect Printing Pouch or visit http://www.scraperfect.com.


Typically, when printing on vellum or other shiny surfaces, ink can smear and takes a long time to dry. Ink on ribbon and on other absorbent surfaces tends to bleed. To combat this, simply wipe The Perfect Printing Pouch onto the printing surface before printing to release the fine powders. The powders bond the ink to the surface and also contain a drying agent so the ink will dry almost instantly.
No more smearing, bleeding or resisting. It’s that easy.

The Perfect Printing Pouch from ScraPerfect makes printing easy and perfect on vellum, shiny papers, textured cardstock, transparencies, twill tape, ribbon, muslin fabric, shrink plastic, wood, postage stamps, mulberry paper and other difficult surfaces. The print quality is crisp and the ink dries quickly with different inks including ink jet printers, water based and permanent markers, gel pens and stamp dye pads.

The pouch now comes in two styles... THE ORIGINAL and the new STRAP-N-TAP, designed for treating larger surfaces and whole sheets of paper faster and easier. It's perfect for wedding invitations and baby announcements.

[cbits123]

Many thanks all... the transparency idea is a great one!

Epson lists it as one of its paper choices and, online, I found Epson Inkjet Transparencies, 8.5" x 11", 30 Sheets, Part #: S041064. A bit pricy, though... $45.99. Would love to find a few sheets to try; I guess I will have to decide how much I am willing to pay to experiment. :)

gg


Staples (Big box buisness supply store) has their brand inkjet transparencies for much cheaper...I use all the time quality is great.

[NRiceDesigns]

I then did another one where I made a 9 in wide by 3 in high box, filled it with a pattern, added a picture in the middle and printed, cut it out and wrapped around a candle, lit it and it became an illuminated photo. Worked perfect! Thanks for the link Nita.

Ooohhh, I bet it's beautiful. Have you tried one with the Big Cats? (Sure, I want one for Christmas. ;) Just kidding, but it would be beautiful wouldn't it?). You could make personalized luminaries for everyone on your gift list. (as if you don't have enough to do already!!)

Have you checked out the projects on the Canon site? Go to this site & click Creative Park (I think it's a button on the right). http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndex1Act&fcategoryid=103

[NRiceDesigns]

YES, you read it correctly! I couldn't believe my eyes when I watched Scrapbooking using tissue paper backgrounds on DIY Network.

Check this out...
http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_scb/episode/0,2046,DIY_14332_34372,00.html
Click on the Tissue Paper Background link.

Nancy, you go first... you're brave. ;)

[Tom K]

If you are looking for printing on Vellum, you might look at the HP site
project 10 on this page.

http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/343238-0-0-225-121.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN#10

Tom:D

[ScraPerfect]

The powder barely coats the paper--think blush on cheeks. The ink heads don't touch the paper. Epson even recommends the product:

"Hot tip:
For any vellums you encounter which resist being printed, we recommend you try “The Perfect Printing Pouch.” It is a pouch filled with a formula of acid-free, talc-free, non-toxic powders. Prior to printing, lightly tap the pouch over the area where you wish to print to release the powder onto the vellum surface. The powder makes the ink adhere to the paper and speeds drying. It works well on patterned, coated, and colored vellum as well as on many glossy, textured, handmade and coated papers. We recommend that after using the pouch, run a plain sheet of paper through your printer to remove any excess powder from the inside of your printer. Available online at www.scraperfect.com or by calling 866-644-4435.
~ Reprinted from the Epson Print Lab Series Booklet: Scrapbook Projects"

[cats4jan]

- way back when - at least a couple of years ago - I tried working with velum for both text and graphics.

I tried all sorts of settings and all kinds of vellum and I could never get the result I wanted. I did make a couple of wedding cards with it, but really - it didn't turn out as I had envisioned.

The advice about using draft setting and letting it dry thorough was right on - the ink smears like mad.

There are adhesives on the market now made just for vellum. If you plan on doing any taping/pasting - get that tape - it works pretty darn good. Not perfect, but a whole lot better than regular tape and adhesive.

I am assuming that the vellum products out today are better than they were a couple of years ago.

And, I too, wish we could buy by the sheet. Who wants to spend $45 just to find out your purchase is worthless.

[ljameso1]

Strathmore makes a Natural Translucent Vellum sized 8.5x11 for inkjets. I used a coupon at Michael's crafts and got a 25 sheet pack for about 10$. I've had no problems with bleeding. Photos that I think work best on vellum are softer to start with. For crisp photos I use transparency film. Another neat product that combines crispness with transparancy(albeit about 2$ a sheet) is Backlit inkjet media by Photoglow. By frontal light it looks like a normal photo but, when lit from behind is like viewing a giant slide. They have various sizes lit frames/papers.(and no i don't have stock);)