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idp
August 7th, 2006, 01:34 PM
I am a new subscriber to Elements Tecgniques. I have been pouring over the videos sections and picking up a considerable wealth of knowledge. The "Installing Extras" video dated: May 13, 2005, with Matt K. explains how to download the PET Plug-ins, which I have done. My question is ... How do you get the "Channel Mixer" and the "Curves" plug-ins to work? Whenever I click on those plug-ins I get a "Making Command does not work at this time" message. Can someone explain how to get those to work or if in fact they even do work?

Daviskw
August 7th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Hi there

Just a quick off the top of my head.... be sure the picture you are working on is a RGB color... check Image>Mode

Butch

GaryK
August 7th, 2006, 02:19 PM
One other thing.. I don't think some or the things work with PE4 if that is what you are using.

idp
August 7th, 2006, 03:34 PM
Thanks Gary, I am using PE4! Do you know if there are going to be a Curves and Channel mixer plug-ins made for use in PE4?

Shari
August 7th, 2006, 03:41 PM
I also got that message when trying Grants tools mask. It was because I was working on the background layer. By going Ctrl J (windows) it worked.
Shari

Norm F
August 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Thanks Gary, I am using PE4! Do you know if there are going to be a Curves and Channel mixer plug-ins made for use in PE4?

There is a free curves tool which works in PSE 4 at http://free.pages.at/easyfilter/curves.html

idp
August 7th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Thanks Norm... do you use this plug-in? I have always been a little leary about plug-ins I'm not familiar with. I'm sure you know what I mean.

Norm F
August 7th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks Norm... do you use this plug-in? I have always been a little leary about plug-ins I'm not familiar with. I'm sure you know what I mean.

I have installed it and it didn't give me any problems. My only "problem" is I don't have a flippin' clue how curves work. I find it very taxing on my little brain. Need to do some reading. This tool has been tossed around before on the forum and I'm pretty sure several people have installed it. I've heard no negative reviews. I think it's safe.

idp
August 7th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Norm... Once again thank you...
I really appreciate your input!

TonyW
August 7th, 2006, 05:30 PM
My only "problem" is I don't have a flippin' clue how curves work.

Just wait until you get that CS2 :D :D

Tony

Norm F
August 7th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Just wait until you get that CS2 :D :D

Tony

I know you're right but hey, it doesn't hurt to push your boundaries a bit. Just a year ago, I couldn't do anything with an image and Photoshop totally freaked me out. PSE, this website, and this forum have really helped me get comfortable and grow.

chas3stix
August 7th, 2006, 10:10 PM
idp,
Once you have the curves plug-in installed the fun begins....
Open a photo and make a copy to work on(ctrl J). Open the curves pallette and make control points and move the straight line to an "S" curve and watch what happens to your photo. If you don't like the results you can always edit undo. A little adjustment goes a long way.
Chas

Norm F
August 7th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Chas,

You make it sound so simple. :)

Shari
August 8th, 2006, 12:45 AM
I have the action curves with Grants tools. Is it any different than the plug in you are talking about?
Shari

Wendy
August 8th, 2006, 03:46 AM
Norm ...

Bookmark this link ... it take all the mystique out of using curves. Its nicely written and easy to follow :)

http://www.thegoldenmean.com/technique/curves1.html

Wendy

Norm F
August 8th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Thanks Wendy. I will give it a go.

tfry
August 8th, 2006, 01:19 PM
My only "problem" is I don't have a flippin' clue how curves work.


That's scary...Norm sounds just like me... :twisted:

Wendy
August 8th, 2006, 01:50 PM
Tami ...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Wendy

NYBOB1
August 8th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the excellent link on curves Wendy.



Bob

gsansoucie
August 8th, 2006, 09:55 PM
There is a free curves tool which works in PSE 4 at http://free.pages.at/easyfilter/curves.html

SWEET! And to think I was ready to buy the CS2 upgrades to get curves!!

I have PSE 3.0 and just installed the Curves Plugin for 3.0. I wish I had this plugin about an hour earlier while I was working on my pBase PaD, I had one of those photos that really needed curves and I was getting there through Levels & the Render Lighting filter. . .

chas3stix
August 8th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Norm,
I didn't mean to oversimplify using curves. But too many folks get ajida, (heartburn) just mentioning curves. Using PSE can be hard work....but also a whole lot of fun!
Chas

chas3stix
August 8th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Norm,
Got an off-topic question for you....What does "Bob's your uncle ",mean? It's not a common saying south of the Canadian border....:)
Chas

Norm F
August 8th, 2006, 11:23 PM
Norm,
Got an off-topic question for you....What does "Bob's your uncle ",mean? It's not a common saying south of the Canadian border....:)
Chas

I couldn't tell you. It's not a common saying where I come from either. Sorry. :)

kayser
August 8th, 2006, 11:27 PM
This came up before: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bob1.htm

GaryK
August 9th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Kay

I like the first explanation best. That's the one I'm using.:D

chas3stix
August 9th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Kay,
Thanks for the link,one click and Bob's your uncle....:)
Chas

kimi_boo
August 9th, 2006, 10:46 PM
I have the action curves with Grants tools. Is it any different than the plug in you are talking about?
Shari

I have gran't tools also. Is the download different???? I know nothing about curves except everyone things they are cool. :confused:

chas3stix
August 10th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Kimi,
Curves is like levels on steroids.....:) If any of your "Grant's tools" work, curves should also.
Chas

Shari
August 10th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Chas - what I was wondering is - I have grants tools which includes curves - so is it necessary to download the plug-in you are talking as well? Thanks.
Shari

Wendy
August 10th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Shari ...

I guess you are using PSE3 so the curves you have are just fine ... :)

Wendy

Shari
August 10th, 2006, 08:26 PM
Thank you Wendy. I didn't know they were referring to PSE4 and thought I might be missing something! I am learning so much from this layers course that I now have a better understanding of the programme.
Shari

chas3stix
August 10th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Shari,
I am using PSE 3.
Chas

Wendy
August 11th, 2006, 03:37 AM
Hi Shari ...

I'm sure that it will work in PSE3 too but if you already have Grants tools then not too sure that you would gain much by installing it :)

Wendy

chas3stix
August 13th, 2006, 12:32 PM
Hi all,
Just read a great article in the current "Outdoor Photographer" magazine.(September issue) It's about curves and levels. The author is none other than Moose Peterson.
Chas