Rendering

[Pop6Hittings]

Hi, im pretty new to this, I just bought the program, and I want to know how long it usually takes to render? Its taken me around 4 hours to render a five minute video, and I have a fast computer with fast internet(If that matters) So is there anyway I could make this process go faster?

I called the company and they said I had to pay $39 dollars for this information, so I thought this would be a better alternative:)

Thanks~

Tim

[gem]

4 hours to render a five minute video.......I have a fast computer

Some details and specifications would probably be in order Tim. Defining rendering of a five minute video would be a good place to start (did you render to mpeg / quicktime? encode for DVD? etc.). I have an older machine with a P4, 2.5 gig processor and a gig of RAM, but it is still quite capable. You might want to offer a few specifications of your computer to allow an understanding of why your render took so long.

More often that not, I shut down all programs / processes that I don't need to edit video when working on a project. That includes my anti-virus (and don't use a screensaver). Having done that, I also disconnect from the Internet since I don't have that protection running. I use a basic but very useful little program called "EndItAll2" to terminate unneeded processes. There are other ways of doing this with utilities built into Windows, but improper changes made with a few of these tools could cause your operation system to not function properly. If I inadvertently shut down the wrong thing with EndItAll2, then I just simply reboot and all is back to normal. You may be able to find a free or low cost version of this program on the Web.

Always remember to check to see if you need to defrag your drive(s). While XP will not recommend the need, I always perform this task on any drive that is fragmented at 10% or more. It is important to also shut down as many programs / processes when defragging, including disconnecting from the Internet. You need as little disc activity as possible while it is reorganizing. Maintenance of your machine is very important. It might even be possible that you have some spyware / malware running that you don't know about. Along with other issues, this type of malicious software can use quite a bit of system resources.

Even something as basic as heat can slow you down. Make sure your machine is in a reasonably cool environment and it's fans are working properly. The numbers your processor is crunching to process video can take it's toll.

There are many factors that need to be determined and / or eliminated to realize a solution. Quite often a problem is fairly simple.

[karen donnybrook]

Pop6,
Welcome to the forum. Hope you had some luck with getting the videos.

[Dee Dee Warren]

I find Premiere pretty slow and I have a good machine. I follow all of the advice above, especially shutting everything else done. Also the tutorial book I have recommends using an external drive if you don't have a lot of free unfragmented memory on your hard drive.

[ATR]

Classically you will see in text books “The render time depends on the duration of the movie, the effects that were applied, and the computer’s processor speed/memory”. Previous Forum User has gone into a comprehensive overview already.

I just wanted to share a very odd Premiere Elements 2.0 happening that I traced back to programs running in the background. I keep the system “lean” and close all other programs when using Premiere Elements 2.0. From day one every so often, I would be working along in PE2, wanted to find something in Help, clicked on Help Menu, and got no response. When this was occurring, I also could not access the Adobe Help through Programs/Adobe Help Center. The only way I could get the Help back was to shutdown/restart the computer and reopen PE2. Keep in mind that everything else in PE2 and the computer were working fine. It was just accessing Help that was the problem. First or second opinions were not forthcoming for an explanation. This is what I discovered. When the Help loss was happening, my printers were plugged in the wall outlet, but off. Off, not on idle. If I unplugged the printers from the wall outlet, access to help via the Help Menu was restored.

ATR

[Pop6Hittings]

I sent it to Windows Media Player, and if internet matters I have Cable, which runs quickly. I have Intel® Pentium® D Processor 820---Biostar i945G-M7---1GB composed of 2- 512MB DDR2/533 DIMMS---250GB SATA 7200 RPM WD

I dont know if that matters but thats what I have, and we keep the house air conditioned, so if thats the case, its cool. We defrag once every two weeks, and we have no Spyware, or anything of the sort, I hope that answers your question!

Thanks

~Tim

[Byron Gale]

Tim,

You don't say what your source material is... but I'll mention that if you're creating a movie from still images, then there can be significant processing time involved if the images are not relatively close to the video resolution to begin with.

Byron

[Pop6Hittings]

Nope, no images, its just .wmv files, and it FINALLY finished the 10714 frames it had to render(at about 1 frame per second >:[) and right when it did, it just restarted without me pressing anything! So crazy!!:mad:

[tfry]

Odd,
Just curious, what was the size of your wmv files? as in screen size, if PRE has to rerender the screen size that can also take some time. standard NTSC video size would be 720x480 roughly. Also again did you have to do any color correction, filters, anything like that? That all takes alot of time.

Let us know:)

[Pop6Hittings]

Im not sure, all I know is that the video is only 5.30s long

[bwolford]

Tim,

I'm know Premier Elements expert, but the source size can make a difference too. I used to upload large source files and then edit, but I found it almost unworkable during editing and rendering. When I used smaller source files things went faster. I can say with confidence that the Pro version is much better. Of course it costs you a relative fortune compared to elements.

Brice

[gem]

(at about 1 frame per second

Solving that result would seem to be the fix. I only wish I could suggest something constructive.

I once had a problem burning DVDs. It was excruciatingly slow. I had to change the transfer mode in the IDE controller segment of the Device Manager. Windows had changed from Ultra DMA to PIOS (apparently this can happen when a exceptionally scratched / damaged disc(s) is ran in an optical drive. If I remember correctly, this was only a burning problem however and not an encoding problem. I only offer this because it doesn't cause harm to check, but I don't think that is your problem.

Your machine is more than adequate and other things I suggested seem to be in order. I would imagine you still have plenty of disc space on your hard drive. Check back and perhaps someone with greater expertise than I might be able to assist. One idea that I do have is that maybe someone with a similar computer configuration (processor speed, RAM, etc.) would be willing to run the same project as you attempted. This would include sending them the project and source file(s). This idea may not be practical, but I thought I would put it out there.

You might want to also post at the videohelp.com forum as well. There are many knowledgeable folks there.

Good Luck.

[santo]

I wonder if this problem was solved in some way, as I'm experiencing a similar problem.

The facts:
I created several slideshows in Adobe Photoshop Elements and exported them to wmv format.
The total size of the wmv files is 623MB
The wmv files were then imported into Adobe Premiere Elements to create a DVD (with menu).
According to the timeline in Premiere Elements it will take up to 1h41min

I started the burn to DVD process yesterday evening at 22:00 (local time) and now (13:30, almost 16 hours later !!!) the progress bar is at appr. 1/3 of the overall progress
In other words: it will take around 48 hours to create a DVD with the slideshows !!
Nerovision will do this in appr 1 hour on the same system !

Computer specs:
Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz, 1GB RAM (2x512MB), 2x160GB WD hard disk

Any suggestions welcome...

[drumdesigns]

What kind of video card are you using in your machine? With this software, I've noticed that this matters greatly in addition to the hardware your machine has.

I have an Athlon 64 X2 3800 dual-core processor, 2 gigs of Corsair high-quality RAM, two Western Digital 260 GB hard drives and most importantly, a Geforce 7900GT PCI Express video card.

For me, a typical project involves one hour of miniDV footage captured with transitions, titles, and effects added during authoring. On one project, I had all those items, plus a 30 picture slideshow with a title for each pic set to music.

I set the video quality settings to the highest amount and encoded the entire project to a file on computer for multiple burning opportunities.

With the specs and example above, the complete encode of the entire project took 3.5 hours.

I hope that gives you some comparative information you can use to assess your situation. I haven't tried to encode anything but captured video from a miniDV camcorder. The burned project had excellent video quality and played flawlessly!

[Pop6Hittings]

Ive come to the conclusion that the program just isnt good. Sorry guys, thanks for all the help though!

[santo]

Sorry for the late response. I was very very busy the past months and lost track on this thread.

Here are the answers to your questions:
- video card: Medion Radeon X740XL (128MB)
- Computer specs: Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz, 1GB RAM (2x512MB), 2x160GB WD hard disk

This weekend I burned a new DVD and it took exactly 16 hours ! (only includes encoding and writing the dvd, not the creation of the slideshows in Photoshop Elements, which also takes a considerable amount of time)
This is much faster than my previous attempt (see my previous post above) but still waaaaay too slow in my opinion.

These are the steps I took to create the DVD:

- create slideshows in Photoshop Elements
- create "DVD with menu" (File -> Create -> DVD with menu)
(Video options: PAL)
-> This will create wmv files for the slideshows
-> after wmv files are created, Premiere Elements is opened and a new project containing the slideshows is created:
- apply a DVD template
- let premiere elements create DVD scene markers
- click "Burn DVD"

=> Burning DVD is still way too slow
=> Why does it take "only" 16 hours this time and appr 48 hours the previous time ?

[hfgerena]

Hello everyone;

I have a Dell Dimension 9150/DualCore 2.80 GHz. And this is not the first time that I have read about this type of threads and makes me wonder. I change my Video Card to a RADEON 3D
X1300 512MB, but this was a couple of months ago. I have not done anything special to my computer, I don't shutdown programs or disconnect from the Internet, from time to time I use PE4 at the same time with PE2, read my emails and logon to this forum.

I have captured and rendered on different formats; VHS, 8mm, miniDV and JPEG. And I have captured them from VCR machines, Camcorders and Digital Cameras. I do a lot of editing and I'm a freak about special effects, so I used them a lot, I love to use all the Transitions that I can use, I also add music and Audio Special Effects, and finally I use menus and sub-menus, well I practically use all of the features from the software, thats why I pay for.

I only follow one rule, all my projects are 1 hour or less.

And if my project is 1 hour long that is exactly the time it will take to do the render/burning, it does not matter the output media, DVD or Folder.

As long as I remember I can say that in my case there is a 1:1 relation between the duration of the video and the time that it takes to put it on a DVD. And I'm using PE2, so from my experience I don't think that there is any problem with PE2.