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[Benny Pedersen]

HELP (two questions)

Now I got me a new camera (Canon EOS 30D). :D

Instead of shooting JPG to be used as source for PE4, then save as JPG (the
local photo store take JPG to print), I think its better to shoot RAW. Use RAW editor and save as 16 bit TIF, then PE4 it and save as JPG. The problem is this: The RAW editor ask me to save as 350 dpi. When I open the TIF in PE4, the Image Size is 3504 x 2336 pixels (ok) but the Document Size is only 25,43 x 16,95 cm (resolution 350 pixels/inch). I was told that I could save as JPG and go to the local photo store and get a print bigger than 30 x 20 cm using my new 8 Mega pixel camera but since its now only 25,43 x 16,95 cm, then I may have spoiled my possibility for a large quality print :-(

What dpi should I use when saving the TIF ???

Benny Pedersen,
PS. Hmmm, should I set my camera up to sRGB or adobe RGB ?

[Ric Cisson]

Benny, most digital mini lab systems print jpg/tif @300 dpi. I would select Image>Resize>(uncheck the resample box)>then enter 300 dpi. You will probably also have to go to Image>Mode>(select) Convert to 8bits/channel as most digital minilab systems only handle 8 bit/channel. As for saving for printing at your local photo lab, again either tif or jpeg, 300dpi, in either RGB/sRGB, and flatten all layers. Since most digital minilabs ignore imbedded profiles and assume sRGB Color work space, I would recommend sRGB unless your local lab has a preference for RGB within their system. Hope this helps.

[JonE]

This is a very confusing area and I'm sure some real experts will chime in. But don't confuse pixels count with dots per inch (dpi). Pixels is what your camera gives you and what counts for on screen display (other than web browsers - a different topic). Your screen will display one pixel of camera data per one pixel of screen (makes sense) but it won't resize it for you to make it fit. That's why large pixel count photos run off the screen, but if you reduce them to say 800x600 ppi then they look fine on the screen. (My screen for example is set at 1280x1024, but others are set differently so that's why pictures that fit nicely on one monitor will not fit on another (also why web browsers handle them differently for a universal look).

Dpi is for printing. The dpi you need depends on what your printer needs or can hendle for best quality. So check your manual or check with your printing service on what is best. According to the about.com references below, 150-200 dpi is good quality, 200-300 is high quality and and pro printers can be even up to 4800 dpi. Just because you have a certain "natural" size image based on its pixel count doesn't mean it can't be printed in other sizes. It can - larger or smaller -- because unlike your monitor, between your software and printer the image can be compressed down or enlarged. When enlarging, if you need more pixels to give you enough density, Elements will create more pixels by digital resampling (you can see this option in the image resizing dialog box). The question is whether at the size you specify, you have enough density (pixel count which will translate to dpi for printing purposes) to still have a quality print. With an 8 MP camera, you should have plenty of pixels to create nice enlargements within reason. Again, your printing service can tell you how large you can likely go while keeping reasonable quality. Ultimately the proof is in the print and whether you are satisfied wtih it. Many pictures may not look that great right up close but if you put them on a wall and step back a few steps, they look great. NOW...I hope I didn't mess any of that up and I hope if I did someone will correct it. Here are a couple of good links on this topic:

http://www.photo.net/learn/resize/
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/resolution/index.htm
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/digitalimaging/f/pixelsprint.htm
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/digitalimaging/f/pixelsonline.htm
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/digitalimaging/f/changeprintsize.htm

[Benny Pedersen]

Thanks for answer :-)

Benny Pedersen,
PS. Going to a wedding party to morrow and shoot some pictures
using my new camera :-)

[Wendy]

Hey Benny ...

Do let us see the some of the photos :)

Wendy

[Benny Pedersen]

Ok :-), here's one I shoot yesterday.
I like my new camera. My old "Konica z2" could newer take photos like this:

http://home1.stofanet.dk/photo/plugin/649_web.jpg

Benny Pedersen

[Robyn]

Benny,

Great shot........beautiful little girl and a gorgeous cat.

I recently bought a 30D too, but I haven't done much work with it yet.

[karen donnybrook]

Benny, that is a beautiful photograph - well done :)

[Wendy]

Benny ...

Oh that is so nice ... you captured the moment perfectly. Its difficult capturing people so that they look completely natural ... but you did it with this one :)

Wendy

[Benny Pedersen]

Thanks!

1/80 sec > F/4 > ISO 1600
The "ISO 1600" :eek: would give you a lot of picture noise! but since
I used my new (PE4) plugin named "Neat Image" (cost $74), that
noise isn't a problem :)

Benny Pedersen,
PS. I shoot other good pictures last week but the galery subscribe
cost some $ money or what :confused:

[mom to 4]

Beautiful image, sweet girl......not so crazy about the cat (ahhhh choooo!):D .


really good equipment just makes a world of difference!!!!

Congratulations on your new toy!!! Can't wait to see wedding pictures!!!!!